VOResource 1.1 RFC

Carlo Maria Zwölf carlo-maria.zwolf at obspm.fr
Thu Jun 8 10:36:23 CEST 2017

Hello all, 

the RingGold project (http://www.ringgold.com/overview <http://www.ringgold.com/overview>) tends to assign ID to institutions (mainly based on their physical address). For example the ID 26914 is the RingGold ID for the Paris Observatory. This is a commercial system, but from what I know this is the only project dealing with identification for institutions. 



> On 08 Jun 2017, at 10:32, Baptiste Cecconi <baptiste.cecconi at obspm.fr> wrote:
>> Le 8 juin 2017 à 09:48, Markus Demleitner <msdemlei at ari.uni-heidelberg.de> a écrit :
>> Hi Baptiste,
>> On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 12:02:41AM +0200, Baptiste Cecconi wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 05:30:38PM +0200, Baptiste Cecconi wrote:
>>>>> The Creator and Contact of VOResource elements both include an
>>>>> ivo-id attribute to be used for referring to contact/creator
>>>>> details already declared in the registry. This is also present in
>>>>> the VOEvent data model and it could be useful in many other cases.
>>> I've posted a few links in the TDIG discussion page of last interop in Shanghai:
>>> http://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/InterOpMay2017-TD-001 <http://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/InterOpMay2017-TD-001>
>> Ah -- you make an interesting point on that page: "refer to ORCID".
>> Which made me wonder: what would author identifiers in the VO
>> Registry do that ORCID can't?  And can't that perhaps fixed in ORCID?
>> My take always is that fewer identifier types are better -- and when
>> we're confident ORCIDs will work for our use cases, we could even
>> deprecate ivo-id on creator and contributor…
>> Note that with VOResource 1.1, curation/creator already has
>> altIdentifier, which you can use to put ORCIDs in (contributor
>> doesn't though, since at the Sydney and Cape Town interops, there was
>> zero interest in having that; this could still be changed).
>>      -- Markus
> Indeed ORCID could do it for persons.
> I will try to use use the existing altIdentifier attribute to refer to orc-id and spase-id. 
> I would need it for all elements that could be a person/party, so having it back on contributor would be needed.
> However, when the contact/contributor/creator is a team or an organizing, we should use the ivo-id. 
> I'll see on real-life examples and come back to you.
> Baptiste

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