<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hello all, <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">the RingGold project (<a href="http://www.ringgold.com/overview" class="">http://www.ringgold.com/overview</a>) tends to assign ID to institutions (mainly based on their physical address). For example the ID 26914 is the RingGold ID for the Paris Observatory. This is a commercial system, but from what I know this is the only project dealing with identification for institutions. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regards, </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Carlo.<br class=""><div apple-content-edited="true" class=""><br class="">
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 08 Jun 2017, at 10:32, Baptiste Cecconi <<a href="mailto:baptiste.cecconi@obspm.fr" class="">baptiste.cecconi@obspm.fr</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Le 8 juin 2017 à 09:48, Markus Demleitner <<a href="mailto:msdemlei@ari.uni-heidelberg.de" class="">msdemlei@ari.uni-heidelberg.de</a>> a écrit :<br class=""><br class="">Hi Baptiste,<br class=""><br class="">On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 12:02:41AM +0200, Baptiste Cecconi wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 05:30:38PM +0200, Baptiste Cecconi wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">The Creator and Contact of VOResource elements both include an<br class="">ivo-id attribute to be used for referring to contact/creator<br class="">details already declared in the registry. This is also present in<br class="">the VOEvent data model and it could be useful in many other cases.<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote>I've posted a few links in the TDIG discussion page of last interop in Shanghai:<br class=""><a href="http://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/InterOpMay2017-TD-001" class="">http://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/InterOpMay2017-TD-001</a> <<a href="http://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/InterOpMay2017-TD-001" class="">http://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/InterOpMay2017-TD-001</a>><br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Ah -- you make an interesting point on that page: "refer to ORCID".<br class="">Which made me wonder: what would author identifiers in the VO<br class="">Registry do that ORCID can't? And can't that perhaps fixed in ORCID?<br class="">My take always is that fewer identifier types are better -- and when<br class="">we're confident ORCIDs will work for our use cases, we could even<br class="">deprecate ivo-id on creator and contributor…<br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Note that with VOResource 1.1, curation/creator already has<br class="">altIdentifier, which you can use to put ORCIDs in (contributor<br class="">doesn't though, since at the Sydney and Cape Town interops, there was<br class="">zero interest in having that; this could still be changed).<br class=""><br class=""> -- Markus<br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><br class="">Indeed ORCID could do it for persons.<br class="">I will try to use use the existing altIdentifier attribute to refer to orc-id and spase-id. <br class="">I would need it for all elements that could be a person/party, so having it back on contributor would be needed.<br class=""><br class="">However, when the contact/contributor/creator is a team or an organizing, we should use the ivo-id. <br class="">I'll see on real-life examples and come back to you.<br class=""><br class="">Baptiste</div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>