SSA 1.1

Marco Molinaro molinaro at oats.inaf.it
Thu Jan 8 16:04:05 CET 2015


Hi Pierre,


2015-01-08 15:57 GMT+01:00 Pierre Le Sidaner <pierre.lesidaner at obspm.fr>:

> Hi Marco
>
> If what you ask is when I will modify my validator to take into account
> the specificity of theorical spectra : answe is soon :-)
>

my idea was more on the writing down the errata (note or whatever), but the
validator is of course important.

Marco

I 'll try to push it a bit on the stack I have of "things to do"
> But I have discuss with her directly explaining that as the doc was not
> clear I have not implemented it. But discution on DAL list push me to take
> into account this specific case
>
>
> regards
> Pierre
>
> On 01/08/2015 03:51 PM, Marco Molinaro wrote:
>
>> Hi Pierre, all,
>> I think the errata would be nice, also considering Michele Sanguillon
>> question on the dal list:
>>
>> http://mail.ivoa.net/pipermail/dal/2015-January/007020.html
>>
>> Maybe yours and Michele's discoveries on the SSA-1.1 can be joined in one
>> correction step.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>     Marco
>>
>> 2014-11-18 15:35 GMT+01:00 Pierre Le Sidaner <pierre.lesidaner at obspm.fr
>> <mailto:pierre.lesidaner at obspm.fr>>:
>>
>>
>>     Thanks Doug
>>
>>     That was also my idea of testing errata, that's why I have send
>>     the first email also to TCG
>>
>>     Regards
>>     Pierre
>>
>>
>>     On 11/18/2014 03:21 PM, Douglas Tody wrote:
>>
>>         The theoretical spectra example was always pretty rough - it
>>         would be
>>         great if it were updated.  Perhaps (for the TCG) this would
>>         qualify as
>>         an errata?  - Doug
>>
>>
>>         On Tue, 18 Nov 2014, Carlos Rodrigo wrote:
>>
>>             Hi
>>
>>             Given that the example for theoretical spectra in the
>>             document is based in one of our services, I
>>             think that I should say something here... :)
>>
>>             Doug's answer has clarified most of the things that I
>>             intended to write
>>
>>             In fact, there are several metadata that are mandatory and
>>             are not in the example:
>>
>>             Char.SpatialAxis.Coverage.Location.Value
>>             Char.SpatialAxis.Coverage.Bounds.Extent
>>             Char.TimeAxis.Coverage.Location.Value
>>             Char.SpectralAxis.Coverage.Location.Value
>>             Char.SpectralAxis.Coverage.Bounds.Extent
>>
>>             The first three ones does not (usually) make sense for
>>             theoretical spectra so I think that we can
>>             apply what Doug says.
>>
>>             The last two ones make sense for theoretical spectra and
>>             they are not in the example, so I think
>>             that it would be good to add them. In fact, at first
>>             sight, I guess that the example was writen so
>>             much time ago and it does not reflect some changes in the
>>             document, so it would be nice to rewrite
>>             it a little. In fact, there are more things that should be
>>             changed in the example. For instance,
>>             url's are outdated and they don't work (the domain
>>             laeff.inta.es <http://laeff.inta.es> does not exist anymore)
>>
>>
>>             So, if it is ok, I could write an updated version of the
>>             example
>>
>>             Carlos
>>
>>
>>             On 11/18/2014 02:33 PM, Douglas Tody wrote:
>>
>>                 Hi Pierre -
>>
>>                 Section 4.1 of the spec addresses the issue of theory
>>                 data and notes
>>                 that some metadata may not have meaning for certain
>>                 types of data
>>                 collections such as theory data.  However the section
>>                 talks about query
>>                 constraints (input parameter semantics) and I agree is
>>                 not explicit
>>                 about what to do with the query response. The
>>                 implication though, and
>>                 what was intended, is that if metadata such as spatial
>>                 position is not
>>                 meaningful for the data collection, these values
>>                 should be omitted in
>>                 the query response.  Hence your option #2 below
>>                 applies; metadata is not
>>                 mandatory (i.e. may be set to null) if not defined for
>>                 a specific data
>>                 collection such as as theory data.
>>
>>                     - Doug
>>
>>
>>                 On Tue, 18 Nov 2014, Pierre Le Sidaner wrote:
>>
>>                     Dear IVOA members
>>
>>                     I am facing a little problem with my SSA validator
>>                     following the documentation metadata such as
>>                     Char.SpatialAxis.Coverage.Location.Value are
>>                     mandatory in the query response
>>                     but example in the text for response of Theory-SSA
>>                     omit some of them.
>>
>>                     My question is :
>>                     Am I badly reading the documentation ?
>>                     should we modify the mandatory fields for non
>>                     "observational" SSA
>>                     Should we modify the example of Theorical SSA
>>
>>                     regards
>>                     Pierre
>>
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>>
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