[towards UcdList 1.5]

[Stéphane Erard]

Hello

Here is a more formal version, after iteration - I’ve put a number from looking at the github, please fix if needed.

Cheers
Stéphane

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> Le 14 mars 2022 à 15:52, Mireille LOUYS <mireille.louys at unistra.fr> a écrit :
> 
> Hi Stephane ,
> 
> here is an example of a suggestion for a UCD  proposed by Ada Nebot as VEP-UCD-004.txt
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> VEP-UCD-004.txt
> Vocabulary: http://www.ivoa.net/rdf/UCDlist/
> Author: Mireille Louys from Ada Nebot
> Date: 2021-06-24
> Nb of terms discussed together : 1
> 
> New Term: time.period.oscillation
> Action: Addition
> Label: Period of pulsation of a body (similar to solar pulsations or oscillations)
> Prefix: Q
> Description:
> 
> Rationale:
> This term was proposed actually by Ada Nebot to consider oscillating phenomena
> on sky objects and cover possible time measurements used in these studies.
> This is a first term proposal for addition concerning oscillating stars, etc ...
> 
> Use-case / paper reference example :
> https://academic.oup.com/mnras/article/487/3/3523/5512602
> 
> Discussion:
> 
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> 
> The way to go is to propose such a small file with your suggestion, tag it as VEP-UCD-006.text and fill the various fields .
> I can upload it on the RFM page (https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/UCDList_1-5_RFM ) and
> vespa github for you if you wish.
> 
> Thanks , Mireille
> 
> 
> 
> Le 14/03/2022 à 13:36, Stéphane Erard a écrit :
>> Hello
>> 
>> 
>> Sorry, I can’t recall the procedure to propose new UCDs, but we’ve recently identified missing quantities.
>> These are expected to support band lists:
>> 
>> The closest things now are:
>> integrated_intensity_abscoef & _specific => spect.line.eqWidth (?)
>> integrated_intensity_relative => spect.line.eqWidth.arith.ratio (?)
>> integrated_intensity_strength => spect.line.eqWidth.strength (?)
>> 
>> Except that 'eqWidth' doesn't fit with 'integrated_intensity', which is what is needed here.
>> Can we consider adding spect.line.intIntensity together with spect.line.Intensity (which is the maximum) ?
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Stéphane
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Le 17 janv. 2022 à 14:41, Mireille LOUYS <mireille.louys at unistra.fr> a écrit :
>>> 
>>> hi Semantics ,
>>> 
>>> I believe more discussion is needed for the organisation of the meta.ref branch in the UCD tree.
>>> My question is :
>>>     Do we need the meta.ref.pid branch? which usage does it serve not covered by more precise types of ids?
>>> The role of the UCD should be to classify the role, usage of the metadata element tagged with this ucd string.
>>> Then Ucds as meta.ref.xxx sorts of ids do the job when the xxx kind can be resolved with a specific process.
>>> If we use meta.ref.pid , we can just  infer it is an identifier which is persistent , but can't decide where and how to resolve it.
>>> On the contrary, each meta.ref.ivoid, meta.ref.epic, meta.ref.orcid, meta.ref.handle, etc... indicate already which sort of service will resolve them.
>>> 
>>> meta.ref in the ucd tree already conveys the idea of a persistent identifier, I guess, because if it would not be persistent, I would not cite it in a an archive metadata record.
>>> Am I forgetting something here ? any use case where pid cannot be specified more precisely with a specializedid as the ones above ?
>>> 
>>> cheers, Mireille
>>> -- 
>>> --
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>>> 
> 
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> Mireille Louys,  MCF (Associate Professor)
> Centre de données CDS		IPSEO, Images, Laboratoire Icube
> Observatoire de Strasbourg	Telecom Physique Strasbourg
> 11 rue de l'Université		300, Bd Sebastien Brandt CS 10413
> F- 67000-STRASBOURG		F-67412 ILLKIRCH Cedex
> Tel: +33 3 68 85 24 34
>