[Media] IVOA facebook info request

[Christophe Arviset]

Dear all

I have mixed feeling on this matter. On one side, I agree to the point 
that it would be difficult to fully determine what is the VO job or not 
and Simon indeed pointed out a good group for jobs for astronomers 
(there is also the LinkedIn on Astronomy and Space Software 
(https://www.linkedin.com/groups/70811). On the other side, I would not 
want to systematically ban any job posting as there might be some very 
specific ones purely VO (such as emerging from EC funded projects) that 
would be natural to post there.

I hope this helps.

Cheers

Christophe



On 18/01/2018 11:24 PM, Simon O'Toole wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Just putting in my two cents worth: I agree that we should not be 
> posting job ads on the IVOA social media accounts. Mainly because, as 
> Bruce says, it is often hard to distinguish a VO-related job ad from a 
> non-VO-related one. We don’t want to annoy people with a somewhat 
> arbitrary cutoff (“Why did they post that ad when they didn’t post 
> mine!!”). Also, there is a great Facebook group already for jobs: Jobs 
> for Astronomers.
>
> Cheers,
> Simon
>
>
>> On 19 Jan 2018, at 5:35 AM, Bruce Berriman <GBB at ipac.caltech.edu 
>> <mailto:GBB at ipac.caltech.edu>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jamie,
>>
>> Please see below!
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>>> On Jan 18, 2018, at 12:43 PM, Budynkiewicz, Jamie Anne 
>>> <jbudynkiewicz at cfa.harvard.edu 
>>> <mailto:jbudynkiewicz at cfa.harvard.edu>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Bruce,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the quick input. In hindsight, I was a bit hasty on this. 
>>> Apologies on that.
>>>
>>>     Having a “catch-all” for information will, in my view, diminish
>>>     the impact of our social media efforts.
>>>
>>> I agree with this -- we don't want to add too much technical/insider 
>>> material to the pages.  I feel if the job were strictly VO-related, 
>>> it'd be fine to post it on facebook or twitter. At least it shows 
>>> there are jobs for VO-work or ones that request knowledge of VO.  If 
>>> Marco's job posting is directly VO-related, perhaps we could post 
>>> something more for the general public on facebook/twitter before 
>>> hand?  Does that help?
>>>
>>> Or, we can just state the policy, "No job postings on the social 
>>> media platforms" if that makes the most sense.
>>
>> My view is not to do job postings in tis way. It can often be hard to 
>> discriminate what is really a VO job from what is not - in the sense 
>> that jobs tend to have several roles, and the VO part may be the 
>> least significant, and we should not be advertising such. I am, 
>> however, happy to listen to alternative views on this topic from the 
>> media group.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jamie
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Thanks in advance

Cheers

Christophe


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