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<p>Dear all</p>
<p>I have mixed feeling on this matter. On one side, I agree to the
point that it would be difficult to fully determine what is the VO
job or not and Simon indeed pointed out a good group for jobs for
astronomers (there is also the LinkedIn on Astronomy and Space
Software (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.linkedin.com/groups/70811">https://www.linkedin.com/groups/70811</a>). On the other
side, I would not want to systematically ban any job posting as
there might be some very specific ones purely VO (such as emerging
from EC funded projects) that would be natural to post there.</p>
<p>I hope this helps.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Christophe <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 18/01/2018 11:24 PM, Simon O'Toole
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<div class="">Just putting in my two cents worth: I agree that we
should not be posting job ads on the IVOA social media accounts.
Mainly because, as Bruce says, it is often hard to distinguish a
VO-related job ad from a non-VO-related one. We don’t want to
annoy people with a somewhat arbitrary cutoff (“Why did they
post that ad when they didn’t post mine!!”). Also, there is a
great Facebook group already for jobs: Jobs for Astronomers.</div>
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<div class="">Cheers,</div>
<div class="">Simon</div>
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<div class="">On 19 Jan 2018, at 5:35 AM, Bruce Berriman <<a
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moz-do-not-send="true">GBB@ipac.caltech.edu</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class="">Please see below!</div>
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<div class="">On Jan 18, 2018, at 12:43 PM,
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<div class="">Thanks for the quick input. In
hindsight, I was a bit hasty on this.
Apologies on that.</div>
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<div class="">Having a “catch-all” for
information will, in my view,
diminish the impact of our social
media efforts.</div>
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<div class="">I agree with this -- we
don't want to add too much
technical/insider material to the
pages. I feel if the job were strictly
VO-related, it'd be fine to post it on
facebook or twitter. At least it shows
there are jobs for VO-work or ones that
request knowledge of VO. If Marco's job
posting is directly VO-related, perhaps
we could post something more for the
general public on facebook/twitter
before hand? Does that help? </div>
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<div class="">Or, we can just state the
policy, "No job postings on the social
media platforms" if that makes the most
sense.</div>
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My view is not to do job postings in tis way. It can
often be hard to discriminate what is really a VO
job from what is not - in the sense that jobs tend
to have several roles, and the VO part may be the
least significant, and we should not be advertising
such. I am, however, happy to listen to alternative
views on this topic from the media group.</div>
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<div class="">Cheers</div>
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<div class="">Bruce</div>
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<div class="">Thanks,</div>
<div class="">Jamie</div>
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