[csp] Project Survey + Publish data into the VO - interop session
Vandana Desai
desai at ipac.caltech.edu
Tue Mar 1 19:49:56 CET 2022
Ada,
I like your idea very much! Sounds like others have provided speakers for
you to choose from.
On a related topic:
The document https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/PublishingInTheVO
provides
some very useful guidance in helping people who want to publish in the VO.
One of the ways described is basically giving your data to an established
data center. However, in order to do that, appropriate metadata has got to
be provided. This is a topic that we spend a lot of time working with
small projects on, because the VO specifications are quite intimidating,
and small groups often aren't funded at a level to really digest them. We
have been tasked with creating a metadata guide that would make it easy for
VO outsiders with little time to include the metadata that would be
required to seamlessly ingest contributed datasets into IRSA (and the VO).
Does anyone know of any existing metadata guides? I know that MAST has this:
https://outerspace.stsci.edu/display/MASTDOCS/Required+Metadata
. . . which is quite useful. Any others?
Thanks,
Vandana
On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 5:01 AM Chenzhou Cui <ccz at bao.ac.cn> wrote:
> Hi. Ada,
>
> I would like to recommend Dr. Dongwei Fan, the R&D lead of the China-VO,
> to share the experiences and lessons for the 10-years' LAMOST data release
> and open access. Additionally to the data release web portal, the LAMOST
> spectral archives have been integrated into several VO tools, i.e. Aladin
> and ESASky.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chenzhou
> On 2022/3/1 18:15, ada nebot wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Yes, I agree, the Australians have done a great job too.
> We could invite for instance Brent Miszalski, or do you have someone else
> in mind?
>
> I think it would be good to have a third contribution, does anyone else
> have a suggestion?
>
> Cheers,
> Ada
>
> On 28 Feb 2022, at 17:40, Mark Taylor <m.b.taylor at bristol.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> Agree! Tamara and Australians are both IMO excellent examples of
> "outsiders" adopting VO standards.
>
> On Mon, 28 Feb 2022, Christophe Arviset wrote:
>
> Dear all
>
> I also fully support Tamara, as she implemented many of the VO protocols
> and provided very good feedback in this context in the Ops WG sessions (cc
> Mark) about services validations.
>
> A couple of years ago, when we went to Sydney for ADASS and IVOA meeting,
> I was struck on how various Australian data centres just picked up the IVOA
> standards and implemented them, without having been involved in the VO
> before, so they might also be good presenters in this context, so we could
> ask Simon or James for names. Now if you want old or future projects, we
> also have some at ESA, but it might be better to hear from people "outside"
> the IVOA community.
>
> --
> Thanks in advance
>
> Cheers
>
> Christophe
>
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> From: csp-bounces at ivoa.net <csp-bounces at ivoa.net> On Behalf Of Enrique
> Solano
> Sent: 28 February 2022 17:09
> To: ada nebot <ada.nebot at astro.unistra.fr>; csp <csp at ivoa.net>; Hendrik
> Heinl <hendrik.heinl at astro.unistra.fr>; Dave Morris <dmr at roe.ac.uk>;
> François Bonnarel <francois.bonnarel at astro.unistra.fr>
> Subject: Re: [csp] Project Survey + Publish data into the VO - interop
> session
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I support the idea of inviting Tamara for the "recent project"
> presentation. The Javalambre Observatory is doing an excellent work
> implementing VO protocols (ConeSearch, TAP, HIPS, MOC,...) in the J-PLUS
> and J-PAS surveys.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Enrique.
> On 28/02/2022 16:18, ada nebot wrote:
> Dear CSP members and task force on Publishing Data into the VO,
>
> I would like to join the two ongoing efforts on:
> - The project survey conducted by the CSP (>20 responses already!)
> - The Publish your data into the VO efforts carried out by the task force
>
> To join these efforts we would like to propose a session on Publishing
> your data into the VO during the interop meeting in April.
>
> Proposed session organisation:
> 1. Summary of the results from the survey
> 2. Present the webpage on Publish your Data into the VO
> https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/PublishingInTheVO<https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.ivoa.net%2Ftwiki%2Fbin%2Fview%2FIVOA%2FPublishingInTheVO&data=04%7C01%7CChristophe.Arviset%40esa.int%7C9f514e7641084d1119b408d9fad4cea5%7C9a5cacd02bef4dd7ac5c7ebe1f54f495%7C0%7C0%7C637816614165752176%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=ytTQv4g3CblxBPGNVMC%2BV6GA3nzUCibSPeT8nGq%2FMdw%3D&reserved=0>
> <https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/PublishingInTheVO%3Chttps://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.ivoa.net%2Ftwiki%2Fbin%2Fview%2FIVOA%2FPublishingInTheVO&data=04%7C01%7CChristophe.Arviset%40esa.int%7C9f514e7641084d1119b408d9fad4cea5%7C9a5cacd02bef4dd7ac5c7ebe1f54f495%7C0%7C0%7C637816614165752176%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=ytTQv4g3CblxBPGNVMC%2BV6GA3nzUCibSPeT8nGq%2FMdw%3D&reserved=0%3E>
> and the ongoing efforts to improve it.
> 3. Have 3 invited presentations of projects that joined the VO: an "old
> project" a "recent project" and a "future project".
> 4. Open the room for Q&A
>
> I would suggest to go for a plenary session, 1 h 30 min long.
>
> The idea would be to listen to the story on how a project can build a VO
> archive for their data to help the newcomers. I think that having someone
> tell us their story on "how they did it", "how they do it", "how they plan
> to do it" would be great. From such a session we can collect lessons
> learned and help others with the process.
>
> For the newcomers session that Hendrik and Dave carry out, I can give a
> short presentation taking some elements from Exec & CSP, and announcing
> this extra session during the interop.
>
> We could invite all those who shared their contact on this survey to
> attend the interop newcomers session, and to this dedicated session on
> sharing your data into the VO.
>
> Does this approach seem ok to you? And who should we invite to give a
> presentation on the topic?
>
> For the "recent project" I though about inviting Tamara Civera. She is
> representing the Javalambre Observatory and has recently joined the VO.
> I've seen her contributions in past interops and I think she's doing a
> great job and other projects can learn from her experience.
> Do you have someone in mind, also for old and future projects? It could be
> you or someone from your project of course!
>
> Cheers,
> Ada
>
>
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