A modest proposal for VOEvent

Rob Seaman seaman at noao.edu
Thu Mar 5 14:55:03 PST 2009


Well, maybe I should have handled the orbital element subthread in one  
message.  Anyway, this "seems" about right to me, but a functioning  
consensus seems even "righter".

Rob

On Feb 22, 2009, at 11:15 AM, Frederic Hessman wrote:

> I believe the thing to avoid is
>
> 	<orbitalElements q="1.2345" P="9.54321" Punits="days" ...   />
>
> as too compact and illegible and
>
> 	<orbitalElements>
> 		<q>
> 			<units>none</units>
> 			<value>1.2345</value>
> 			...
> 		</q>
> 		...
> 	</orbitalElements>
>
> as too verbose and cumbersome to parse.   The only reasonable system  
> is to use attributes for secondary information, e.g.
>
> 	<orbitalElements>
> 		<q units="none">1.2345</q>
> 		<P units="days">9.54321</P>
> 	</orbitalElements>
>
> but then, everyone has their own tastes (and those tastes even  
> change).
>
> Rick
>
> On 21 Feb 2009, at 3:39 am, Rob Seaman wrote:
>
>> Some of us have no preference.  When we've had this discussion  
>> before, others did have a preference for using attributes.
>>
>> Rob
>> ---
>>
>> On Feb 20, 2009, at 6:57 PM, jberthier wrote:
>>
>>> Rob Seaman wrote:
>>>> Howdy,
>>>>
>>>> My goal is to create a draft of the v2.0 VOEvent specification to  
>>>> be ratified by the WG at Hotwired II.  These are the issues and  
>>>> my proposals for each:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Orbital elements.  See appended message from Francesco.  Pan- 
>>>> STARRS has been working with the Minor Planet Center to define a  
>>>> VOEvent-based specification.  We should follow their lead.  The  
>>>> MPC is the only game in town.
>>>>
>>>>> Following our conversation, here is what we would like to use.
>>>>>
>>>>> Our orbital elements are in cometary form and so something like  
>>>>> this
>>>>> would be nice:
>>>>> <orbit>
>>>>> <q units="AU" value=123 />
>>>>> <e units="" value=123 />
>>>>> <i units="deg" value=123 />
>>>>> <node units="deg" value=123 />
>>>>> <time_peri units="MJD" value=123 />
>>>>> <arg_peri units="deg" value=123 />
>>>>>
>>>>> <epoch units="MJD" value=123 />
>>>
>>>
>>> Why put the value of the parameters in an attribute (e.g. <q  
>>> units="AU" value=123 />) and not as a value of the element (<q  
>>> units="AU">123</q>)? Is there any reason?
>>>
>>> jerome
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>



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