purl, vocabularies and ivoa.net

[Walter Landry]

Hi Everyone,

For what it is worth, I would prefer to spell out things like this (no
one is going to know what 'purl' means).  I also do not like the use
of domains.  So I would go for

  ivoa.net/permanent/vocab/

Cheers,
Walter Landry

Marco Molinaro <molinaro at oats.inaf.it> wrote:
> Dear Nicolas, dear all,
> 
> so, the preferred solution would be along the lines of
> 
> purl.ivoa.net mapped in DNS on the same machine as www.ivoa.net
> 
> purl.ivoa.net/vocab/ to host vocabularies
> 
> purl.ivoa.net/vocab/theory to redirect to Paris server
> 
> Still, I think there's a problem with the
> 
> www.ivoa.net/rdf/Vocabularies
> 
> because we'll have or duplication of locations for vocabularies or to
> change the current behaviour of the endpoints.
> 
> I wonder if this thing has to move out of the Theory/Semantics list to
> TCG level to make then a suggestion to Exec, because it's actually
> Exec that has rights to manage the ivoa.net domain, and this looks
> like a change in what's currently in there.
> 
> Any thoughts on this?
> 
> Marco
> 
> 2017-05-24 14:18 GMT+02:00 nicolas moreau <nicolas.moreau at obspm.fr>:
>> Dear Marco,
>>
>> In order to simplify the redirection process if vocabularies are distributed
>> in several places,
>> we suggest to use the following pattern :
>>
>> purl.ivoa.net/vocab/theory/ConceptName
>>
>> and redirect it to Paris pages.
>>
>> The use of a purl prefix makes it explicit that we are dealing with a
>> persistent identifier
>> and not a simple url.
>>
>> www.ivoa.net/vocab/theory is acceptable too, it is simply not as clear if we
>> are
>> requesting a web page or a concept.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>     Nicolas
>>
>>
>>
>> Le 19/05/2017 à 08:42, Marco Molinaro a écrit :
>>>
>>> Dear Semantics,
>>> Dear Theory,
>>> (IVOADoc in CC)
>>>
>>> during the session this Tuesday, in the "SKOS in VO THeory" talk, it
>>> was proposed a change for the vocabulary for Theory VO with patterns
>>> pointing to
>>>
>>> http://purl.ivoa.net/ConceptName
>>>
>>> Now (apart from DNS aspects that can be managed on the DNS+IVOADoc
>>> side - that's why IVOADoc is in CC), ivoa.net has already a branch
>>>
>>> http://www.ivoa.net/rdf/
>>>
>>> that is meant to store vocabularies (Datalink one is already there).
>>> Also, the theory vocabulary will actually physically be in Paris, i.e.
>>> purl.ivoa.net will simply redirect to it.
>>>
>>> This email is to try to understand exactly how we can make this things
>>> work together, namely:
>>> - the purl.ivoa.net and its redirection to Paris (but possibly it
>>> should survive in ivoa.net and be used by other parties)
>>> - the relationship between purl.ivoa.net and www.ivoa.net/rdf
>>>
>>> Ideas, comments, .... are welcome, so that we can also start thinking
>>> of DNS changes in Trieste (hosting the IVOA.net domain and related
>>> DNS) and maybe in IUCAA (where the web part of the ivoa.net is
>>> physically located.
>>> I can take care of connecting with IVOADoc and ivoa.net sysadmins for
>>> the technical part.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>      Marco
>>
>>