Vocabularies WD draft

[Alasdair J G Gray]

Hi

Norman Gray wrote:
>
> Greetings, all.
>
> I'd like to invite people here to take a look at the current (0.02) 
> draft of the document `Vocabularies in the IVOA'.  It's at
>
>    http://www.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/IvoaSemantics#Latest_documents
I've just tried to access the document and rather than rendering the 
xhtml I got the code. (I'm able to view other xhtml documents in my 
browser.) Is there something wrong with the way the document is being 
hosted?

Cheers,

Alasdair

PS This might explain why we have had little response so far ;-)
>
> This draft has had a few iterations off-list, with a rather amorphous 
> and informal cc list.  That was a fairly efficient way of resolving 
> some minor issues, and has helped refine the set of more significant 
> issues currently associated with the document.  These more significant 
> issues are now I think concrete enough to be usefully discussable on 
> this IVOA-wide list.  There were some fairly significant issues such 
> as the relationship between these vocabularies and higher-level 
> ontologies work ongoing in the IVOA, but I _believe_ that these were 
> either resolved to broad satisfaction on-list before the solstice, or 
> else have been addressed within the document.
>
> So fire away!
>
>
>
> *** Process ***
>
> The document and the related vocabularies are in a Google Code 
> repository at
>
>     http://volute.googlecode.com
>
> The subversion repository is at 
> <http://code.google.com/p/volute/source>.  That page gives 
> instructions on how to check out a read-only anonymous copy of the 
> tree; if anyone here wants read-write access, mail me a googlemail 
> account name and I'll add you.  If you subscribe to the volute-commits 
> list <http://groups.google.com/group/volute-commits> you can see each 
> repository commit as it happens.
>
> There's an issues list at 
> <http://code.google.com/p/volute/issues/list>.  I'm in two minds about 
> this issues list, and wonder if a hand-maintained HTML file beside the 
> document source might be preferable.  It's obviously less functional 
> than this issues list, but might be more concrete.  I'm keen to hear 
> comments.
>
> I suspect that we don't want to drown the semantics at ivoa list in a lot 
> of minutiae about commas, SKOS serialisations, and makefiles, and so 
> suggest having such minor-issue discussions somewhere else.  The 
> obvious place is a second google groups list; the next possibility is 
> just keeping it as a big cc-list amongst the authors (a bad idea, I 
> think); the third is staying on semantics at ivoa until we're told to 
> shut up.
>
>
>
> *** Next steps ***
>
> At what point does this enter the formal process?  Is it by 
> acclamation on this list, or by Andrea's imprimatur?
>
> I don't believe this need be a long process, and hope that we might 
> have a pretty complete version of the document in a couple of months.  
> Rick and the other VOEvent people have fairly pressing uses for this 
> work; Alasdair and I have separate reasons for wanting to embed the 
> vocabularies in other systems; this suggests that we might find two 
> implementations which can be reported on at the May Interop.  Is it 
> too optimistic to hope that this document might therefore go to PR in 
> Trieste?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Norman
>
>

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