SV: do we need it?

Ed Shaya eshaya at umd.edu
Fri Sep 14 11:21:34 PDT 2007


Tony,

    It would be a mistake to try to come up with the Definitive 
Vocabulary of Astronomy, especially an IAU sanctioned one.  That is 
simply not the task, as I see it, for the IVOA.  We are exploring 
avenues of processes and services and trying to come up with workable 
mechanisms.  We need a stable vocabulary that remains stable while we 
hook up these services one to the other and test them out.  Perhaps
underscores (eg gamma_ray) will turn out to be a terrible choice and
maybe camelback (eg GammaRay) is even worse (probably it doesn't 
matter).  Maybe we need an extremely exacting subclassification scheme, 
or maybe we need an extremely loose set of vague relational terms 
instead (probably we will need both).
	So, the best thing to do is for this working group (semantics R-us) to 
take a stab at a terminology so we can get on to the real part of making 
applications.  We can then present it, in the normal course of achieving 
Recommendation status, to the entire IVOA. And let all of the 
application makers, be forewarned that the vocabulary is likely to get 
tugged around on occasions (hopefully not too often).  And one of those 
occasions will be when the IAU puts its stamp on things.  But I would 
not expect that to happen for a number of years.

Ed


Tony Linde wrote:
> Back to being facetious? J
>  
> It pays to check these things - I've had efforts derailed in the past for
> not including all the appropriate stakeholders. And I assumed the list of
> stakeholders in a SV would be rather larger than the IVOA.
>  
> T.
>  
> From: owner-semantics at eso.org [mailto:owner-semantics at eso.org] On Behalf Of
> Rob Seaman
> Sent: 14 September 2007 16:30
> To: semantics at ivoa.net
> Subject: Re: SV: do we need it?
>  
> Tony inquires:
> 
> 
> Is there some IAU (or similar) group we ought to engage with to ensure that
> this effort is welcomed by astronomers?
> The IVOA is that IAU group.  We fall under Commission 5.  The "O" in IVOA is
> there for a reason.
> 
> 
>  
> Rob
> 
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