Vocabularies: formal parenthesis

Tony Linde Tony.Linde at leicester.ac.uk
Wed Sep 12 07:33:39 PDT 2007


Hi Rick,
 
I certainly don’t dispute the need (or usefulness) of a standard vocabulary
only that *any* document produced by a person or persons not set up by the
WG specifically with the remit to produce a WD should be tabled as a NOTE –
that’s all.
 
Cheers,
Tony.
 
From: owner-semantics at eso.org [mailto:owner-semantics at eso.org] On Behalf Of
Frederic V. Hessman
Sent: 12 September 2007 14:51
To: semantics at ivoa.net
Subject: RE: Vocabularies: formal parenthesis
 
On 12 Sep 2007, at 11:07 am, Tony Linde wrote:
The point I was making is that this is a *private* document and not one
which belongs to the working group. The wg has not decided it wants a
vocabulary document (or anything at all at this point) and if/when it does
so decide, it will first debate the format in which it wants that vocabulary
and then will start work on that document.
If the wg decides that a Note which a person or group has submitted is a
useful starting point for a WD then it can ask that the Note be copied to a
WD document with the appropriate heading changes.
These documents are Notes only and should be written and posted as such. A
WD can only be created when the wg decides that it wants one after suitable
discussion.
The main thing is that everyone knows this document was _intended_ to induce
heafty discussion, not to force anyone's hand.  It's always easier to
discuss something concrete, even if the discussion ends up being the
decision to make giant revisions.    And yes, I suppose we do have to "vote"
on whether there will be a formal WD.   However, if there's a good chance of
the vote within the semantic working group being negative on the latter
point (i.e. no WD in this direction any time soon), then the HTN+VOEvent
community will create it's own solution - the real pressure is on to have a
solution not sometime next year but now - and all the great benefits of
having a global VO standard will go away.  This isnt a threat - that would
be really silly - but a simple fact of life.
 
Rick
 
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