VODataService becoming WD, then PR
Ray Plante
rplante at poplar.ncsa.uiuc.edu
Mon Nov 17 07:38:42 PST 2008
Hey Paul,
Thanks a 10^6 for having a look.
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008, Paul Harrison wrote:
> I have one immediate issue with the latest version of the VODataService
> schema/specification. I think that the table description should contain an
> explicit definition of how to specify foreign keys that define the relations
> between tables - these relations are, after all, fundamental to the way that
> the relational databases function, and it is impossible to do a multi-table
> query without this information.
As you alluded, the <relationalJoin> element provoked some criticism that
led to it being dropped. The most cogent argument was that this was it
was not shown effective in an existing prototype, although the problem you
mention is recognized (see item 6 under
http://www.ivoa.net/cgi-bin/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/VODataService#Proposed_Changes,
if you haven't already).
One of the problems that has been cited is that primary and foreign key
matching is not always that simple; in particular, keys sometimes span
across multiple columns. On the other hand, a simple solution as you
suggest may satisfy a majority of situations.
> I think that it is possible to come up with
> something much simpler - e.g an optional fkey attribute on a TableParam that
> points to the primary key by using the "table.column" syntax for the
> attribute value.
As a means of prototyping such a solution, the document does provide
several mechanisms for extension (section 3.3.2). Two that might work
include:
o extending the TableParam type to add the additional metadatum as an
element and invoking it with the usual xsi:type mechanism.
o decorating the column element with an attribute from an external
schema; this is allowed because the TableParam type definition now
includes a '<xs:anyAttribute namespace="#other" />'.
Nevertheless, I would like to hear more discussion on this. May I put
out a call for comment on this specific issue? It may help if a specific
proposal is recommended. I don't want to slow the progress VODataService,
but if there is discussion about it, it would be completely appropriate to
have it extend into the official RFC period if necessary.
thanks,
Ray
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