General Web services in Registry schema

[Guy Rixon]

It's news to me that any AG services lack the ?WSDL feature.  I'll have to
get together with Paul and find out what the problem is. I expect that it's to
do with Axis not being able to process the Java beans that we use for
mapping XML (some are made with Castor) and therefore not being able to deduce
the WSDL from the java classes.

In general, letting Axis infer WSDL from Java _at run time_ is a bad habit,
and the plan is that AG services will be altered to use pre-written WSDL.
Thus, I think we _can_ require that VO services do the ?WSDL thing and AG will
conform eventually, hopefully before 2006.

Cheers,
Guy

On Wed, 11 May 2005, Wil O'Mullane wrote:

> Thats what I thought we agreed - ?WSDL is supposrted by AXis and .NET and
> others should follow suit. But If some Astro-Grid Axis Services do not
> actually work with ?WSDL then perhaps we need to revisit that.
>
>
> On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 06:37:35PM +0100, Guy Rixon wrote:
> > OK...should we make it a rule for IVO services with WSDL that they respond to
> > ?WSDL ? (A service with no WSDL would be allowed to 404 to this query.)
> >
> > On Wed, 11 May 2005, Wil O'Mullane wrote:
> >
> > > That is what I remember also.
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 03:46:56PM +0100, KevinBenson wrote:
> > > > Actually I don't remember this extra URL element to point to the wsdl (not
> > > > that I can remember), but we said that a "?wsdl" could be added to the end
> > > > of the service endpoint  (hence the accessURL for a WebService type) and
> > > > that would get the wsdl.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Kevin
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-registry at eso.org [mailto:owner-registry at eso.org]On Behalf Of
> > > > Guy Rixon
> > > > Sent: 11 May 2005 15:08
> > > > To: Paul Harrison
> > > > Cc: Registry List
> > > > Subject: Re: General Web services in Registry schema
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Paul,
> > > >
> > > > I agree. We (AstroGrid) used to use the accessUrl element to point to the
> > > > WSDL
> > > > and this caused confusion due to assymetric with HTTP-get services. At the
> > > > exec meeting in Pune, it was suggested that accessUrl should formally be
> > > > defined to be the service endpoint, not the source of WSDL, and that we
> > > > ought
> > > > to have a different element to given the URL for the WSDL. I think we did
> > > > the
> > > > former change but never reissued VODataService with the extra element for
> > > > the
> > > > WSDL.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Guy
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 11 May 2005, Paul Harrison wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > It seems to me that the WebService type in VODataService-0.5 is
> > > > > incomplete - it would seem to be missing any content elements. The
> > > > > obvious element that it is missing is a reference to the WSDL document
> > > > > that describes the service.
> > > > >
> > > > > Another topic for discussion in Tokyo?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Paul Harrison
> > > > > ESO Garching
> > > > > www.eso.org
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Guy Rixon 				        gtr at ast.cam.ac.uk
> > > > Institute of Astronomy   	                Tel: +44-1223-337542
> > > > Madingley Road, Cambridge, UK, CB3 0HA		Fax: +44-1223-337523
> > >
> >
> > Guy Rixon 				        gtr at ast.cam.ac.uk
> > Institute of Astronomy   	                Tel: +44-1223-337542
> > Madingley Road, Cambridge, UK, CB3 0HA		Fax: +44-1223-337523
>

Guy Rixon 				        gtr at ast.cam.ac.uk
Institute of Astronomy   	                Tel: +44-1223-337542
Madingley Road, Cambridge, UK, CB3 0HA		Fax: +44-1223-337523