Chapter about VOs in BigSkyEarth book

Mon Mar 12 12:32:14 CET 2018

Hi all,

Although I have long been focused on non-astro informatics areas after my years working as a research astronomer including with the VO/Astrogrid/EuroVO, the IVOA is very much seen as a beacon of good practice and what might be achieved for research infrastructure by e.g. life sciences and other disciplines internationally. I also see how people at Leicester are incorporating and working with VO protocols etc for ongoing and future mission data pipelines.

I will soon be working for ELIXIR http://elixir-europe.org at the European hub near Cambridge and they are certainly aware to some degree of what IVOA has achieved, as are Research Data Alliance groups, CODATA and others. As Francoise mentioned, many astro users will not even be aware of the VO enabled infrastructure they frequently utilise...

Petr - make sure you invite people like Andy Lawrence also for the book (if he has time)?

cheers,

Jonathan
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There ia a lot of talking about multi-messanger astronomy (MMA), as this is a very logical direction to head towards. MMA requires standards for data interoperability, to be undertaken by all relevant facilities: otherwise, no MMA is possible. The VO has been dealing with standards for data interoperability for over 15 years; is there anybody around wanting to re-invent the wheel?
I may be too naive in saying that *there is* a future of the VO ... but would be interested to hear different opinions from people wiser than me.

Fabio

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Il 08/03/2018 09:59, Giuseppe Longo ha scritto:
Are yoi tryimng to say that there will be also a future?
GL

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On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 6:39 PM, Rob Seaman <seaman at lpl.arizona.edu<mailto:seaman at lpl.arizona.edu>> wrote:

Some might assert that we're still in the VO's prehistory ;-)

Rob

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On 3/7/18 9:42 AM, Djorgovski, Stanislav G. wrote:

Dear Peter et al., I’d be happy to contribute some text about the early (pre)history of the VO, and the origins of the astroinformatics “movement”.  Thanks, George

On Mar 7, 2018, at 5:33 AM, Petr Skoda <skoda at sunstel.asu.cas.cz><mailto:skoda at sunstel.asu.cas.cz> wrote:

Dear colleagues,

as you may still remember I started to announce at Shanghai interop
the idea of putting together the book about knowledge discovery in astro and geo informatics. I also bothered many of you during EWASS in Prague. At that time was not clear a lot of issues. This book is intended as a result of our COST action BIG SKY EARTH  TD1403 where are participating also many people from astroinformatics circles,  IVOA and Gaia, LSST etc ...

In recent weeks the shaping of the book content and the leading authors of chapters started to be fixed (still some flexibility expected)
details will be given later to interested co-authors.

We with   Adam Fathalrahman from DLR are the main book editors.
As the topic also covers the accessing data , querying and processing at their storage place (because the BigData) one full chapter (probably led by myself) will be devoted  to Virtual observatories, data federalisation and such topics - in both astronomy and Geo sciences. We already have some idea how to tackle this.

So I am looking for possible contributors from IVOA who  would be able to fulfill following requirements. I will cooperate with all of them to join their content with other parts of the book.

1) To summarise in say 10 pages the main points of the astronomical VO standardization - short history which led to IVOA (I would appreciate namely Bob Hanisch, Francoise and other 'fathers and mothers' of IVOA to contribute here)

2) To have a wider view in writing the text having in mind that the book will be read also by non astronomers from Geo community.
So no details about astronomical jargoons , or detailed explanation of protocols, please ;-)

3) Be able of sufficient abstraction of the basic explanation of key principles of registry, votable, TAP, UWS
ucd, importance of metadata (also doi ivorn stuff) should be explained best with giving analogies in other disciplines ....

4)Also developers from Theory group are welcome to describe shortly the SimDB and related stuff also mentioning cosmological simulations and need for querying and subcutting in them.

The deadline for delivering final chapter is end of June.
The involvement must be expressed immediately to me and Adam.

The book will be closed source published probably by Springer, although Elsevier is in play as well - the decision will be made soon.
All the contributors will be indexed in main databases and will be given discounts for the all books from the selected publisher plus other benefits (sorry no direct money).

I am awaiting your emails expressing deep interest  ASAP.

Best regards,

Petr Skoda

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