VO vs VObs

[Maria A. Nieto-Santisteban]

Don't want to put more wood into this fire but ... :)

According to the definition that grid's parent give it seems to me that 
the Virtual Observatory is a Virtual Organization.

a Virtual Organization is not only about people is about people,
resources, protocols, etc ... and it's not only bussiness is also
sciencie. 


http://www.globus.org/research/papers/anatomy.pdf

The Anatomy of the Grid
Enabling Scalable Virtual Organizations

Ian Foster
Carl Kesselman
Steven Tuecke

.... In this article, we define this new field. First, we review the "Grid
problem," which we define as flexible, secure, coordinated resource
sharing among dynamic collections of individuals, institutions, and
resources "what we refer to as virtual organizations. In such settings, we
encounter unique authentication, authorization, resource access, resource
discovery, and other challenges. ...


Maria

On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, Andrew Lawrence wrote:

> I do agree that it is now inevitable that we stick with VO because we
> have used it too many times, including in products, and our first
> priority is clarity with the astronomy community rather than with the
> Grid community. Of course that needn't stop some of us when giving
> Griddy talks using the term VObs frequently so that that community
> doesn't get confused.
> 
> BUT ... it is NOT the case that the Virtual Observatory is an example of
> a Virtual Organisation. VOs are people. The VO is software and data.
> 
> The IVOA is a Virtual Organisation - a formally organised collaboration
> mediated through the Internet.
> 
> The Virtual Observatory is an infrastructure of data sources, hardware
> resources, and software components. It is a datagrid if you will.
> 
>








     andy
> 
> *-----Original Message-----
> *From: Nicholas Walton [mailto:naw at ast.cam.ac.uk] 
> *Sent: 08 June 2004 15:18
> *To: Dave De Young
> *Cc: interop at ivoa.net
> *Subject: Re: VO vs VObs
> *
> *
> *hi dave
> *
> *i think the main user of the VO is the business community - VO 
> *= Virtual
> *Organisation.
> *
> *But a Virtual Observatory is a good example (I hope!) of a Virtual
> *Organisation thus I don't see a problem using VO (usually it will be in
> *context, or carfully defined in cases where confusion with the more
> *generic use VO could result).
> *
> *cheers, nic
> *
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> *
> *On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, Dave De Young wrote:
> *
> *>   It should be VO, even if that does require
> *>  an occasional explanation to the IT community.  Our ultimate user
> *>  group (and funding source) is the astronomy community, not the
> *>  IT community.
> *>
> *>  Dave De Young
> *>
> *>
> *>
> *
> 

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