[Edu] edu Digest, Vol 2, Issue 1

Wed Mar 5 02:32:00 PST 2014

Dear Ana,
thank you for your comments.

2014-03-04 12:34 GMT+01:00 ANA INES GOMEZ DE CASTRO <anai_gomez at mat.ucm.es>:
>
> Now, my comments:
>
> 1. The flagging system is defined in terms of the professional system;
you assume that a given school actually carry out the observations
perfectly. However, our experience is that even being guided, occasionally,
when the Schools or students operate without the direct supervision of a
scientist, they get "peculiar results". These results are valuable from the
educational point of view and are part of the learning process. There
should be some flagging in this sense within the archive.

I agree with you that a dedicate metadata description of the educational
data is useful, however the aim of the proposed flagging is to clearly
identify educational resources versus (let's call them) professional ones.
The flagging system you're proposing has its goal in a subsequent refined
search of resources. Maybe I have to explicit better this distinction in
the Note.

>
> 1b. A flagging system associated with subject and target age is highly
desirable for the educational resources you may plan to plug into the
system (take a glance to www.houspain.com/gttp  for a possible approach
(our approach) to the problem)

I'm not sure I'm getting the point here. Subject and target are already
taken into consideration in the VO world, here we're not trying to finalize
something new, only specifying edu needs within the existing infrastructure.

>
> 2. Language. In the educational system English is not as widespread as in
the scientific environment. We keep having to translate documents,
applications to all EU languages within EU-HOU. My question is, could VO
nodes take over the task  of translating some core documents?.

Translation effort is a big issue, EURO-VO partners have some experience on
this. The issue arises because translation is something that is
contributed. What do you mean exactly with core documents?

>
> Hope this helps.

Every comment and opinion is welcome and valuable.
Thank you again
Cheers,
    Marco

> Cheers, Ana
>
> Prof. Ana I Gómez de Castro
> Universidad Complutense de Madrid
> AEGORA Research team
> www.mat.ucm.es/~aegora
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> 2014-02-25 15:03 GMT+01:00 <edu-request at ivoa.net>:
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>>    1. Re: edu Digest, Vol 1, Issue 1 (Markus Demleitner)
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>> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 08:57:48 +0200
>> From: Markus Demleitner <msdemlei at ari.uni-heidelberg.de>
>> To: edu at ivoa.net
>> Subject: Re: [Edu] edu Digest, Vol 1, Issue 1
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>> Hi Ana,
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>> On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 09:09:20PM +0200, ANA INES GOMEZ DE CASTRO wrote:
>> > you are all referring to a document. I've just joined your mailing list.
>> > Could you please, send me the link?
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>> It's this:
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>> https://volute.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/projects/edu/edumatters/edumatters-fmt.html
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>> Another hint: Archived discussions on this list can be found at
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>> http://www.ivoa.net/pipermail/edu/
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>> Cheers,
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>>         Markus
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 15:03:22 +0100
>> From: Massimo Ramella <ramella at oats.inaf.it>
>> To: edu at ivoa.net
>> Subject: [Edu] EduIG at Madrid and an Edu Note
>> Message-ID: <530CA2AA.9010905 at oats.inaf.it>
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>> Hi!
>>
>> The Madrid Interop is approaching. We submitted the request for an Edu
>> session, so please
>> consider contributing your recent activity in the field of POE.
>>
>> As far as we are concerned, the focus of our work has been to respond to
>> the request of several
>> educational observatories to publish their data in the VO world.  We
>> have also
>> tackled the problem of archiving/retrieving edu documents (other than
>> data). It is thus
>> not surprising that what we will describe/propose in Madrid falls mainly
>> in the
>> Application and Registry cathegories  (I asked for an Edu  session that
>> would not overlap
>> App or Reg).
>>
>> Because the Registry part of our recent work is of interest for more
>> people than just Edu-fans,
>> we have prepared an Edu-Note (attached) where we describe our
>> considerations and
>> findings. We hope that if you have any issue or suggestion with the
>> content of the
>> Note you will let us know before May so that to meet at the interop will
>> guarantee
>> a good progress.
>>
>> We may consider sending the Note to other mailing lists that may be
>> concerned
>> with the Note.
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>> The Note can also be downloaded from the repository
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>> https://code.google.com/p/volute/source/browse/trunk/projects/edu/edumatters/
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>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Massimo
>>
>> --
>> Massimo Ramella
>> INAF-Osservatorio Astronomico di Trieste
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>> tel. +39 040 3199 140
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