[Edu] Another point we should have talked about

[Marco Molinaro]

Dear all,
(not sure how many of you are already in the edu list. Probably someone
will get this mail twice, apologizes for that)

I committed to volute a revision of the note with a couple of figures on
the ContentLevel usage, so we can discuss it with some numbers in mind.
I'm ok with both the General or Educational solution. I'll prefer the
second if VOResource will be changed.

Regarding the "mirroring" part I think the idea of a versioning repository,
once defined what to do with the different licensing, could be a good idea.
Of course is another effort for maintenance, maybe small however.

Cheers,
   Marco

2013/10/17 Markus Demleitner <msdemlei at ari.uni-heidelberg.de>

> Dear EDU IG,
>
> this is a slight edit of a privately circulated mail that was a
> reaction to Massimo's comments on
>
>
> http://volute.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/projects/edu/edumatters/edumatters-fmt.html
>
> -- I hope Massimo's points are still clear from the quotations.
>
> On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 12:06:08PM +0200, Massimo Ramella wrote:
>
> > 1) ContentLevel: seems to me that the value "General" may be quite
> > useless. Since ContentLevel is supposed to filter resources, a value
> [...]
> > somewhere else.  This was the comment :-) The question is: Would it
> > be possible to have "Education" together with Research and Amateur?
>
> I agree that "Education" would be more fitting than "General".
> However, having that would require a new schema, and that is, given
> the way we've built the registry schema files, a fairly disruptive
> change.
>
> Thus, it is our proposal to just *define* that "General" means
> "suitable for Educational purposeses including schools and continuing
> education."
>
> This little sleight of hand should severely reduce technological
> problems we might get with the adoption of our recommendations.
>
> > 2) it seems to me that the note implies that educational resources
> > other than data (i.e. docs,tutorials,videos....) should be those
> > internal to VO (like the tutorials used in VO schools, for example).
>
> What makes you think so?  I'd say text suggesting that should be
> reformulated.  It is at least my intention that people can register
> all kinds of document-like resources useful for VO users.
>
> > 3) another point that is not clear to me is if we think that we
> > should also preserve Edu resources by mirroring (or hosting) them on
> > our VO servers. Personally, I think that we should keep these
>
> I'm not quite sure what you mean by "our VO servers", so I cannot
> really comment on this.  But talking about mirroring indeed raises a
> very valid point.  It would certainly be worthwhile (for the note?) to
> have some sort of "best practices" recommendation of
> licensing the material in a way that invites mirroring.  On the other
> hand, if we  talk about mirroring, we might need to say something
> about versioning and how people can figure out whether something they
> find on a mirror is up to date.
>
> Which, come to think of it, might actually be a very valid use case
> for the doc/edu registry extension.  I'm adding it just now.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>           Markus
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