[Heig] Extensions and next step of Obscore

[BONNAREL FRANCOIS gmail]

Le 11/06/2025 à 16:38, BONNAREL FRANCOIS gmail a écrit :
> Dear Mark, dear all
> Le 11/06/2025 à 16:27, CresitelloDittmar, Mark via heig a écrit :
>> A quick counterpoint here.
>> The purpose of the ObsCore plenary was to bring this from a set of 
>> interest group projects, to the working group level for pushing 
>> through to standards.  I don't think that cutting the working groups 
>> out of the discussion is a good move.. but the topics should be 
>> directed to the appropriate working group(s).
>>
>> I certainly would like the DM group to be included in discussions 
>> about how we the DM content is going to move forward.
>>
>> My understanding about how this might play out is:
>>   * ObsCore v1.2 to contain
>>       * the 'common' properties identified across the domain-specific 
>> notes.
>>            - some discussion may need to occur for proposed changes 
>> to core properties which are non-trivial
>>       * relatively generic descriptions of the properties, and in 
>> some manner, referencing the extension documents for detailed 
>> descriptions of the properties in the context of that domain.
>
> This has been proposed in one of the splinter before interop at least, 
> yes. But achieving that may delay 1.2 a lot. Hence my slightly 
> different view to
>
> have the minimal consensus ASAP
>
>>       * MAY include the DAL / Registry components.. which apply to 
>> all extensions of ObsCore.
>>            - I do think there is a cross group discussion still to 
>> take place regarding these interface standards containing content on 
>> different aspects of the workflow ( DM + DAL )
>>   * Extension Documents
>>       * is a bit of a TBD... in my opinion, we'd want the extended 
>> property set to be normative for the domain extension.. which implies 
>> a REC
> OK
>>         * I'm seeing this as probably a DM REC for each of the 
>> domain-specific extensions? or one for all ObsCore Domain Extensions, 
>> with a section for each domain?
> Due to the different levels of achievment of the various extensions, I 
> dont' think a global document is appropriate.
>>       * I don't think this document includes the DAL / Registry / 
>> Semantics content of the current notes.. which should be resolved in 
>> similar discussions with the appropriate working groups to decide how 
>> that content is codified in standards.
>
> OK. But at least the implementation of DAL and Registry aspects 
> (organzation in tables, service delivering the tables discovery) has 
> to be described.
>
> ObsCore 1.1 had this if I'm not mistaking
>
> Cheers
>
> François
>
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 11, 2025 at 5:32 AM Markus Demleitner via dal 
>> <dal at ivoa.net> wrote:
>>
>>     Dear Colleagues,
>>
>>     Whoa, that's a wide distribution right there.  May I suggest to
>>     have discussions on the immediate future on radioig@ and heig@, and
>>     the wider future on dm@?
>>
>>
>>
>
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