[Heig] Extensions and next step of Obscore

[BONNAREL FRANCOIS gmail]

doing that
Le 11/06/2025 à 16:27, CresitelloDittmar, Mark via heig a écrit :
> A quick counterpoint here.
> The purpose of the ObsCore plenary was to bring this from a set of 
> interest group projects, to the working group level for pushing 
> through to standards.  I don't think that cutting the working groups 
> out of the discussion is a good move.. but the topics should be 
> directed to the appropriate working group(s).
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> I certainly would like the DM group to be included in discussions 
> about how we the DM content is going to move forward.
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> My understanding about how this might play out is:
>   * ObsCore v1.2 to contain
>       * the 'common' properties identified across the domain-specific 
> notes.
>            - some discussion may need to occur for proposed changes to 
> core properties which are non-trivial
>       * relatively generic descriptions of the properties, and in some 
> manner, referencing the extension documents for detailed descriptions 
> of the properties in the context of that domain.

This has been proposed in one of the splinter before interop at least, 
yes. But achieving that may delay 1.2 a lot. Hence my slightly different 
view to

have the minimal consensus ASAP

>       * MAY include the DAL / Registry components.. which apply to all 
> extensions of ObsCore.
>            - I do think there is a cross group discussion still to 
> take place regarding these interface standards containing content on 
> different aspects of the workflow ( DM + DAL )
>   * Extension Documents
>       * is a bit of a TBD... in my opinion, we'd want the extended 
> property set to be normative for the domain extension.. which implies 
> a REC
OK
>         * I'm seeing this as probably a DM REC for each of the 
> domain-specific extensions? or one for all ObsCore Domain Extensions, 
> with a section for each domain?
Due to the different levels of achievment of the various extensions, I 
dont' think a global document is appropriate.
>       * I don't think this document includes the DAL / Registry / 
> Semantics content of the current notes.. which should be resolved in 
> similar discussions with the appropriate working groups to decide how 
> that content is codified in standards.

OK. But at least the implementation of DAL and Registry aspects 
(organzation in tables, service delivering the tables discovery) has to 
be described.

ObsCore 1.1 had this if I'm not mistaking

Cheers

François

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> Mark
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> On Wed, Jun 11, 2025 at 5:32 AM Markus Demleitner via dal 
> <dal at ivoa.net> wrote:
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>     Dear Colleagues,
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>     Whoa, that's a wide distribution right there.  May I suggest to
>     have discussions on the immediate future on radioig@ and heig@, and
>     the wider future on dm@?
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