PR#2 for Provenance DM : syncronicity with vocabularies definition in Semantics WG

[Mireille LOUYS]

Hi Markus, Hi DMers,

Thanks for reading the document and providing your comments.

Concerning the definition of a vocabulary for some attributes of the 
Provenance model, like Agent Role literals,

I think the DM specification should not rely on the current elaboration 
of the vocabulary definition proposed by the Semantics WG.

For now, these literals should be part of the PROV-DM specification , 
and when we have feedback from implementations ,
we will be able to understand the needs for evolution for these lists of 
terms better, and propose an IVOA provenance vocabulary.

By adding too many constraints on this specification , we will delay it 
again, and it is not what we wish for the IVOA.

I will be happy to contribute to the PROV IVOA vocabulary testing , 
after we have an endorsed model.

Thanks , Mireille


Le 02/09/2019 à 13:36, Markus Demleitner a écrit :
> Dear DM,
>
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 08:43:13AM +0200, Laurent MICHEL wrote:
>> I'm pleased to announce the opening of the PR#2 process for Provenance DM.
>> - The RFC period goes from 2019 July 23 to 2019 September 03
>> - RFC page: https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/ProvenanceRFC2
> I have just put in two sets of responses to the RFC page; one for
> myself (there's no *real* show-stoppers in there) an one for the
> Semantics WG[1].  The latter does contain at least one show-stopper,
> because right now we have a vocabulary associated with ProvDM that is
> definitely not publication-ready.  And that vocabulary is not
> referenced in the standard text.  This needs to be worked out one way
> or the other before Semantics can bless the standard.
>
> We are proposing some easily implementable improvements to that
> particular situation, and beyond that suggest the adoption of the
> datalink/core vocabulary for WasGeneratedBy/@role and friends and
> XDescription/@type.  If you need some proselytising (including a
> quick introduction to term management as we think it will be) for
> that, I'd be happy to drop by in Strasbourg or Paris -- or, if
> there's enough time for that, chat about it in Groningen.
>
> Anyway, we'll be more than happy to help resolving the points we're
> making once you decide on what way you'd like to go.
>
>        -- Markus
>
> [1] Incidentally, since DocStd 2
> (http://ivoa.net/documents/DocStd/20170517/), there's no separate
> "public" RFC and TCG review period any more.  I'm not sure if you're
> planning for some variation of the process, which is why I've put an
> "Early" into the header of the Semantics response in case you'll be
> issuing another PR.  Otherwise, I guess you should just fill in the
> TCG period to be 2019-07-23 to 2019-09-03.

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