non vo standard listing

Tue Jun 11 08:36:47 CEST 2024

Hi,

At CDS, we also use schema.org, on HiPS landing pages.

Thomas 

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De: Christophe Arviset via datacp <datacp at ivoa.net>
À: August Muench <august.muench at aas.org>, datacp at ivoa.net, Markus Demleitner <msdemlei at ari.uni-heidelberg.de>
Cc: Rach Bhatawdekar <Rachana.Bhatawdekar at esa.int>, Maria Henar Sarmiento <maria.henar.sarmiento at ext.esa.int>, Arnaud Masson <Arnaud.Masson at esa.int>
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Objet: RE: non vo standard listing

Dear all

Indeed at ESA, we decided to also fill in the schema.org so all our datasets will also be properly referenced in Google Dataset Search. It does not cost much more to do so and we'd rather have all ESA space science datasets properly referenced there as well rather than not having them there at all.

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Christophe

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From: datacp <datacp-bounces at ivoa.net> On Behalf Of August Muench via datacp
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2024 8:00 PM
To: datacp at ivoa.net; Markus Demleitner <msdemlei at ari.uni-heidelberg.de>
Subject: Re: non vo standard listing

Hi Markus,

I do not see a reason to press for Crossref, but I would press (and hope others will as well) for Schema.org.  ESA has, for instance, already embedded schema.org tags in their data landing pages and worked on the linking to Crossref (though they are moving to Datacite) metadata.

Masson, A., De Marchi, G., Merin, B., Sarmiento, M. H., Wenzel, D. L., & Martinez, B. (2021), Advances in Space Research, 67, 2504.
https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2021AdSpR..67.2504M/abstract

Additional schema.org bibliography is below my signature.

Gus

Abu Ahmad, R., D'Souza, J., Zloch, M., Otto, W., Rehm, G., Oelen, A., Dietze, S., & Auer, S. (2024), Toward FAIR Semantic Publishing of Research Dataset Metadata in the Open Research Knowledge Graph, arXiv e-prints, arXiv:2404.08443.

Cecconi, B. (2024), FAIR approach for Low Frequency Radio Astronomy, arXiv e-prints, arXiv:2401.03769.

Hertwig, E., Lammert, A., Höck, H., Fast, A., & Thiemann, H. (2023), WDCC - Improvement of FAIRness of an established repository, EGU General Assembly Conference Abstracts, EGU-5047.

Zwölf, C. M., & Moreau, N. (2023), Assessment of the FAIRness of the Virtual Atomic and Molecular Data Centre following the Research Data Alliance evaluation framework, European Physical Journal D, 77, 70.

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From: datacp <datacp-bounces at ivoa.net> on behalf of Markus Demleitner via datacp <datacp at ivoa.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2024 11:30
To: datacp at ivoa.net
Subject: Re: non vo standard listing

Hi Gus,

On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 11:05:10AM +0000, August Muench via datacp wrote:
> While I think that the "DOI" listing is useful, it is also only the
> tip of an iceberg!
>
> Datacite:
> https://sche/
> ma.datacite.org%2F&data=05%7C02%7CChristophe.Arviset%40esa.int%7C469ef
> 310542c4b7d225808dc80093004%7C9a5cacd02bef4dd7ac5c7ebe1f54f495%7C0%7C1
> %7C638526024155247675%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQ
> IjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C80000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=ccWz
> Iw1sWHQDjrOaGLgUk7aqpbWv6yraou%2FDZf71xgk%3D&reserved=0

That one I'd list, yes; it greatly influences some of our vocabularies, at the very least.  And of course it's where our DOIs will come from, mostly.

> Crossref:
> https://www/.
> crossref.org%2Fdocumentation%2Fschema-library%2F&data=05%7C02%7CChrist
> ophe.Arviset%40esa.int%7C469ef310542c4b7d225808dc80093004%7C9a5cacd02b
> ef4dd7ac5c7ebe1f54f495%7C0%7C1%7C638526024155250547%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbG
> Zsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%
> 3D%7C80000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3pkU1ChWurIIfLj5JDMmzbPhcxsjKfSRRF2n0PmTPoc%
> 3D&reserved=0

Are we doing anything with Crossref?  I couldn't point any specific place, if you don't want to count DOIs in content/source in the Registry that might contain Crossref-minted DOIs -- and I'd prefer not to count this.

> Schema.org:
> https://sche/
> ma.org%2Fdocs%2Fschemas.html&data=05%7C02%7CChristophe.Arviset%40esa.i
> nt%7C469ef310542c4b7d225808dc80093004%7C9a5cacd02bef4dd7ac5c7ebe1f54f4
> 95%7C0%7C1%7C638526024155253120%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLj
> AwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C80000%7C%7C%7C&
> sdata=3pl3NNnFvkcXwyk7ZyI9HUW7QcARjIEQvYY0pEgN%2BQI%3D&reserved=0

Again, I couldn't point to any specific place we're doing anything with stuff coming out of schema.org.  If I may indulge in a personal remark, I'm actually rather happy that we don't, given that, quoting from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schema.org:

  Organization  Google, Yahoo!, Microsoft, Yandex

         -- Markus

(who suddenly feels ten years younger given that Yahoo is in that
list...)

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