gzipped images in SIAP 1.0
Andreas Wicenec
awicenec at eso.org
Tue May 22 06:53:01 PDT 2007
On 22.05.2007, at 15:29, Thomas McGlynn wrote:
> Isn't it valid to refer to a compressed FITS file with the header:
>
> Content-type: Image/FITS
> Content-encoding: GZIP
Yes, I agree, that's the correct way of doing it and that was also
what we have envisioned
when the FITS mime-type proposal was created, else we would need a
different mime-type for
every allowed encoding.
Andreas
>
> That would seem to appropriately separate the semantics of the data
> from
> the encoding. I think we may do this in some of our on-line data
> at the HEASARC.
>
> Tom
>
>
> Rob Seaman wrote:
>> Roy Williams wrote:
>>> I would like to know if it is possible for a compliant SIAP to
>>> return *compressed* FITS images. I note that some so-called SIAP
>>> services have already been built where the image access URL (the
>>> so-called acref) ends in .fits.gz, and so I expect that these are
>>> gzipped fits images. However, the standard seems to say that this
>>> is non-compliant[2].
>> Sorry, I don't know the answer to your specific question.
>> However, I might suggest that compression should be addressed in a
>> broader context, VO-wide.
>> In particular, a ".fits" file may itself already be tile-
>> compressed. We find Rice tile compression to be superior to gzip
>> for our data sets in all key regards: file size, time to
>> compress, time to decompress. There is also better on-the-fly
>> support for tile compression than for gzip in CFITSIO (and
>> potentially in other astronomical FITS libraries and utilities).
>> There is going to be significant pressure for the VO to support
>> tile compressed formats.
>>> I am asking because I am writing client code, and I want *only*
>>> fits files, no jpegs or anything like that. Currently it just
>>> checks for a format of "image/fits" and rejects anything else. Is
>>> this too harsh?
>> If compression has not previously been considered in the VO MIME
>> discussions, it should be now. This seems like an orthogonal
>> question that might logically be expressed something like "image/
>> fits/gzip", if this were possible.
>> One has to believe that formallly your approach is correct,
>> however, and that a ".fits.gz" file cannot be considered an "image/
>> fits" type. Note, however, that this is not true of a tile
>> compressed FITS image, which is a bintable - but is also an image
>> - and certainly remains FITS, however its nature is interpreted.
>>> -- If somehow the answer is yes, that gzipped images *can* be
>>> returned by a SIAP, can somebody recommend a MIME type to use?
>>> Would it be application/x-gzip?
>> Boy - this seems to sacrifice the entire utility of the FITS MIME
>> types.
>>> -- Does the client need to parse the URL? (i.e. look for ending in
>>> .fits.gz or .fit.gz or .FITS.gz or all the other combinations)
>> ...and this seems to miss the entire point of a MIME type in
>> general. (This is similar to the "Is it XML? Or is it Memorex?
>> discussions about Params in VOEvent.) A MIME type should protect
>> you from having to do such up-front parsing/classification.
>>> -- Does anyone remeber the intention of the comma-delimited list
>>> of MIME types? Should my code look for "application/x-
>>> gzip,image/fits"
>>> Or maybe the other way around?
>> Ah! The UCD gambit! Watch out - this is vulnerable to the
>> Sicilian defense.
>> Doesn't this just imply a list of separately acceptable types,
>> that is: gzip OR fits - not gzip AND fits? Disjunction, not
>> conjunction or some other laundry list. Radio buttons, not
>> checkboxes? (And a strict exclusive-OR relationship seems implied
>> by the choice between application/, image/, etc.) Like I said,
>> this seems a broader discussion than SIAP.
>> Rob
>
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