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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dear all,</div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">I didn't comment this and I think I
      have to do that both from the RadioIG and DataLink point of view.</div>
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    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">I think it's a good idea to have
      several different terms hierarchically related to a single one 
      and to use SKOS concepts features for that.</div>
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    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">But I would like to see if some new
      terms could enter this scheme and in which way.</div>
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    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">In a long (and unsolved) discussion
      some times ago common to TDIG/DataLink the question was raised to
      introduce light curve (and also velocity curve) in the vocabulary.
      These are special types of TimeSeries. In ObsCore this could be
      solved by adding these terms in dataproduct_subtype.<br>
    </div>
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    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Spectropolarimetry : polarimetric
      spectra ? This is narrower than spectra but should have another
      broader term. Currently in obscOre this is also probably managed
      by a dataproduct_subtype</div>
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    </div>
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    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">In the radio domain we don't have only
      images and spectral cubes we also have moment maps, velocity maps,
      polarization cubes</div>
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    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">We also had an email by Stephane about
      the EPN-TAP types.</div>
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    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">In the context of DataLink we cannot
      use dataproduct_subtype in a standard way. there is no field for
      that and will probaly not be in the future. <b>So the SKOS
        concept semanticsRelation network is a good idea to organize the
        terms</b><br>
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    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">If we want to organize dataproducts in
      a network we have to think what are the properties  able to
      characterize the dataproducts and see what are the most common
      cases</div>
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    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">   I see at least 4 type of properties</div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">      1 )  What are the independent
      variables (in the context of  functional dependencies of variables
      with respect to others)? for example if time is independent we
      have a TimeSeries , if spectral coordinate is independent we have
      a spectrum</div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">      2 )  What are the dependent
      variables. In case of TimeSeries If it's a photometric quantity,
      it could be a lightcurve, if it's radial velocity it is a velocity
      curve.</div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">      3 ) Are the independent variable
      sparsed or regularly sampled ?<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">      4 ) The organization : is this a
      table (where the different quantities of a given measurement are
      explicitly recorded) or a bitmap where the range of a dependent
      measurement  in the dependent measurement array is a function of
      the independent variables  <br>
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    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">     Let's try to sort our dataproducts
      in a table according to these properties</div>
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    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">TimeSeries :<br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">
      <table width="100%" cellspacing="2" cellpadding="2" border="1">
        <tbody>
          <tr>
            <td valign="top"><br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">space<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">time<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">spectral<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">polarization<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">velocity<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">some moment<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">polarization<br>
              angle<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">photometric<br>
               variable<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">uv <br>
              coords<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">visibilty<br>
            </td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td valign="top">dependent<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td valign="top">independent / regular<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td rowspan="2" colspan="1" valign="top">yes or<br>
              yes<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td valign="top">independant /sparse <br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td valign="top">organization <br>
            </td>
            <td colspan="10" valign="top">table</td>
          </tr>
        </tbody>
      </table>
      <br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Spectrum<br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">
      <table width="100%" cellspacing="2" cellpadding="2" border="1">
        <tbody>
          <tr>
            <td valign="top"><br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">space<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">time<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">spectral<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">polarization<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">velocity<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">some moment<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">polarization<br>
              angle<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">photometric<br>
              variable<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">uv <br>
              coords<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">visibilty<br>
            </td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td valign="top">dependent<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">yes<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td valign="top">independent / regular<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td rowspan="1" colspan="1" valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td rowspan="2" colspan="1" valign="top">yes or<br>
              yes<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td valign="top">independant /sparse <br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td valign="top">organization <br>
            </td>
            <td colspan="10" valign="top">table or bitmap<br>
            </td>
          </tr>
        </tbody>
      </table>
    </div>
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    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dynamic Spectrum<br>
    </div>
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      <table width="100%" cellspacing="2" cellpadding="2" border="1">
        <tbody>
          <tr>
            <td valign="top"><br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">space<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">time<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">spectral<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">polarization<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">velocity<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">some moment<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">polarization<br>
              angle<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">photometric<br>
              variable<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">uv <br>
              coords<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">visibilty<br>
            </td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td valign="top">dependent<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">yes<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td valign="top">independent / regular<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td rowspan="1" colspan="1" valign="top">yes <br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">yes<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td valign="top">independant /sparse <br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td valign="top">organization <br>
            </td>
            <td colspan="10" valign="top">bitmap<br>
              <br>
              <br>
            </td>
          </tr>
        </tbody>
      </table>
    </div>
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    </div>
    Light curve : <br>
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      <table width="100%" cellspacing="2" cellpadding="2" border="1">
        <tbody>
          <tr>
            <td valign="top"><br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">space<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">time<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">spectral<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">polarization<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">velocity<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">some moment<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">polarization<br>
              angle<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">photometric<br>
              variable<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">uv <br>
              coords<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">visibilty<br>
            </td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td valign="top">dependent<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">yes<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td valign="top">independent / regular<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td rowspan="2" colspan="1" valign="top">yes or<br>
              yes<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td valign="top">independant /sparse <br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td valign="top">organization <br>
            </td>
            <td colspan="10" valign="top">table</td>
          </tr>
        </tbody>
      </table>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Velocity curve :<br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">
      <table width="100%" cellspacing="2" cellpadding="2" border="1">
        <tbody>
          <tr>
            <td valign="top"><br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">space<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">time<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">spectral<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">polarization<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">velocity<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">some moment<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">polarization<br>
              angle<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">photometric<br>
              variable<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">uv <br>
              coords<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">visibilty<br>
            </td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td valign="top">dependent<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">yes<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td valign="top">independent / regular<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td rowspan="2" colspan="1" valign="top">yes or<br>
              yes<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td valign="top">independant /sparse <br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td valign="top">organization <br>
            </td>
            <td colspan="10" valign="top">table</td>
          </tr>
        </tbody>
      </table>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">event (event list) : all the
      measurements fort an event are supposed to be independant and
      sparse.<br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">
      <table width="100%" cellspacing="2" cellpadding="2" border="1">
        <tbody>
          <tr>
            <td valign="top"><br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">space<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">time<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">spectral<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">polarization<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">velocity<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">some moment<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">polarization<br>
              angle<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">photometric<br>
              variable<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">uv <br>
              coords<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">visibilty<br>
            </td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td valign="top">dependent<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td valign="top">independent / regular<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td rowspan="1" colspan="1" valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">no<br>
            </td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td valign="top">independant /sparse <br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
            <td valign="top">?<br>
            </td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td valign="top">organization <br>
            </td>
            <td colspan="10" valign="top">table</td>
          </tr>
        </tbody>
      </table>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">visibility<br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">
        <table width="100%" cellspacing="2" cellpadding="2" border="1">
          <tbody>
            <tr>
              <td valign="top"><br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">space<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">time<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">spectral<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">polarization<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">velocity<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">some moment<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">polarization<br>
                angle<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">photometric<br>
                variable<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">uv <br>
                coords<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">visibilty<br>
              </td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
              <td valign="top">dependent<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">no<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">no<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">no<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">no<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">no<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">no<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">no<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">no<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">no<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">yes<br>
              </td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
              <td valign="top">independent / regular<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">no<br>
              </td>
              <td rowspan="1" colspan="1" valign="top">yes<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">yes<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">yes<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">no<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">no<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">no<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">no<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">no<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">no<br>
              </td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
              <td valign="top">independant /sparse <br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">no<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">no<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">no<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">no<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">no<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">no<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">no<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">no<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">yes<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">no<br>
              </td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
              <td valign="top">organization <br>
              </td>
              <td colspan="10" valign="top">table of bitmaps<br>
              </td>
            </tr>
          </tbody>
        </table>
      </div>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Do these tables help to organize the
      terms in the SKOS concept network ? Yes every term which is
      consistent but better defined than another term is narrower than
      it ! For example Dynamic Spectrum is better defined and consistent
      with TimeSeries and spectrum.</div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Light curve and Velocity curve would
      have "TimeSeries" as broader term.<br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Then we can create new SKOS semantics
      Relations by defining new terms for each of these property
      combination if needed.</div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">For example we could call
      "whateverQuantity"Mapping any dataproduct where the dependent
      whateverQuantity is a Mapping (ie function) of the independent
      variables.</div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">For example FluxMapping would be :<br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">
        <table width="100%" cellspacing="2" cellpadding="2" border="1">
          <tbody>
            <tr>
              <td valign="top"><br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">space<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">time<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">spectral<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">polarization<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">velocity<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">some moment<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">polarization<br>
                angle<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">photometric<br>
                variable<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">uv <br>
                coords<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">visibilty<br>
              </td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
              <td valign="top">dependent<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">?<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">?<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">?<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">no<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">?<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">?<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">?<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">yes<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">no<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">no<br>
              </td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
              <td valign="top">independent / regular<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">?<br>
              </td>
              <td rowspan="1" colspan="1" valign="top">?<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">?<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">?<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">?<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">?<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">?<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">no<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">no<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">no<br>
              </td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
              <td valign="top">independant /sparse <br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">?<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">?<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">?<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">?<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">?<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">?<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">?<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">?<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">?<br>
              </td>
              <td valign="top">?<br>
              </td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
              <td valign="top">organization </td>
              <td colspan="10" valign="top">table or bitmap<br>
              </td>
            </tr>
          </tbody>
        </table>
      </div>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">and VelocityMapping almost the same by
      inverting velocity and photometric variable dependent values in
      the above tables.</div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">In this case broader terms for
      LightCurves would be : TimeSeries and FluxMap. And for
      VelocityCurve, TimeSeries and VelocityMap <br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">I'm still wondering about "image" .
      Should we restrict that to FluxMappings ? or are a velocityMap, a
      momentMap,  a polarization angle map also images ?</div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">In the latter  case "image" would be a
      broad term which will require narrower terms at least for
      radioastronomy.</div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Conclusion :<b> I support Markus'
        current proposal </b>but I would like to know if people agree
      with the way I propose to build new terms which will be obviously
      needed in the fields I mentioned at the beginning of this email
      and insert them in the SKOS network.</div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Cheers</div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">François  <br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 18/11/2021 à 14:51, Markus
      Demleitner a écrit :<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:20211118135125.opoytq3pqmyhxaay@victor">
      <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Dear Semantics WG,

for Datalink 1.1 (which will be going to RFC fairly soon, I think),
we ought to have the vocabulary of data product types (spectra, time
series, images ...) ready.  At the last interop, I had suggested that
after a by and large failed attempt in spring we ought to have a SKOS
vocabulary for that; cf.
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.ivoa.net/internal/IVOA/InterOpNov2021Sem/product-type.pdf">https://wiki.ivoa.net/internal/IVOA/InterOpNov2021Sem/product-type.pdf</a>.

I have now prepared this vocabulary based on what obscore lists, plus
the dynamical spectrum that Baptiste has asked for.  Please have a look:

<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.ivoa.net/rdf/product-type/">https://www.ivoa.net/rdf/product-type/</a>

Dynamical-spectrum shows where this is going: If you search for any
of timeseries or spectrum and have term expansion on, you will get
dynamical spectra, too (Baptiste: do you perhaps have some of these
in an obscore table served through a DaCHS that already has the
gavo_vocmatch UDF?  That would be a nice demo).

If you have product types *in obscore services* (or perhaps those
new-fangled Datalink content qualifiers) that ought to go in here
before we go to DAL and the TCG, let me know; at this point we're
still in the vocabulary construction phase, which means it's easy in
(and easy out as well, if someone disagrees with a term, whereas a
non-preliminary term in an accepted vocabulary cannot vanish[1]).

Opinions?  (To give you an idea of the time frame I'm aiming for: My
current plan is to push this to DAL and the TCG by mid-December so we
won't hold up the Datalink RFC when it comes).

         -- Markus

[1] Well, in this particular case, I think we can't pull any of the
obscore terms. However, I can't lie: If I dared, I'd have thrown out
measurements on grounds of insufficient definition.  As always, it's
as important to say what a concept covers as it is to say what it
does not cover.
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