<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Too bad I can’t attend….<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks for suggesting a very interesting set of questions! Sounds more like a 2-day meeting than a lunch break….</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">I<span class="" style="font-size: 12.8px;">VOA Vocabularies</span></div><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class="">-----------------</div><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class="">Products and main stakeholders:</div><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class="">- Theory vocabularies (Frank Le Petit / VO Paris)</div><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class="">- Datalink (Markus/Pat / IVOA community)</div><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class="">- IVOAT</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>I was kind of waiting for the official vocabulary platform to appear before doing anything further, but never heard anything (and was too busy to ask) - Norman?</div><div><br class=""></div><div>It was supposed to contain a distinctly smaller subset of my original IVOAT suggestion, which necessarily means using multiple additonal vocabularies, depending upon what one needs and what was left out - whose? One can easily purge the old historical stuff from IAU93 and useful things from theory & modelling vocabularies, but the rest? How does the non-cognoscenti find what’s out there and what one should use?</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class="">- UAT (CfA Library, ADS, AAS / Publishing community)</div><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class="">- UCDs (CDS / IVOA community)</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>e.g. maintenance of UCD’s in SKOS?</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class="">- Facilities (Baptiste Cecconi / IVOA Community)</div><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class="">Maintenance and Curation</div><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class="">- no mandates: the curators should use the best/most efficient tools</div><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class="">- best practices: to promote use of the vocabularies, we should recommend:</div><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class=""> - feedback: how feedback from community is incorporated into curation process</div><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class=""> - versioning: how releases are created</div><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class=""> - process: how vocabularies are vetted by the IVOA semantics WG</div><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class=""> - publishing: how machine-readable formats are created and hosted</div><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class=""> - provenance and history: tracking changes<span style="white-space:pre-wrap" class=""> </span>over time,<span style="white-space:pre-wrap" class=""> </span>preserving history of changes</div></div></div></blockquote> - best practices for quoting and using other vocabularies<br class=""><div><br class=""></div></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class="">Publishing</div><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class="">- what is the version of record?</div><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class=""> - current relases on github/institutional repo</div><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class=""> - "blessed" version on IVOA website</div><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class="">- what is the minimal publishing requirement?</div><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class=""> - periodic dumps of SKOS file(s) upon releases</div><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class=""> - HTML landing pages for overall product and items</div><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class="">- where should it be hosted?</div><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class=""> - <a href="http://ivoa.net/" target="_blank" class="">ivoa.net</a> (but under<span style="white-space:pre-wrap" class=""> </span>what structure and format)</div><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class=""> - an institutional website (hosted by main curators, endorsed<span style="white-space:pre-wrap" class=""> </span>by IVOA)</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>The IVOA should be a central vocabulary host even if the nominal official copy is somewhere else - simply need to require a minimum of version control and documentation.</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class="">Facilities vocabulary</div><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class="">---------------------</div><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class="">Stakeholders and Use cases</div><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class="">- AAS: tag facilities in a machine readable way to facilitate downstream detection</div><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class=""> (via indexing/search)</div><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class="">- CDS: assign facilities</div><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class="">- Planetary community:</div><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class="">- <a href="http://arcsecond.io/" target="_blank" class="">arcsecond.io</a>: is building facilities/instruments list</div><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class="">Requirements/Questions (these influence discovery, access and use):</div><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class="">- level of granularity</div><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class="">- what metadata to include (e.g. long, lat?)</div><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class="">- includes archives? Services? Where is the boundary?</div><div style="font-size: 12.8px;" class="">- what is its relationship with entries in the registry if any?</div></div></div></blockquote><br class=""></div><div>Rick</div><br class=""></div></body></html>