VEP-017: refframe#geo_app
Baptiste Cecconi
ceccobapts at yahoo.fr
Wed Nov 20 18:27:39 CET 2024
I am fine with this proposal.
Baptiste
> Le 20 nov. 2024 à 15:02, Markus Demleitner via apps <apps at ivoa.net> a écrit :
>
> Dear Semantics, Apps, and DM WGs,
>
> In our refframe vocabulary, we have a term geo_app that we have
> inherited from VOTable's COOSYS/@system. When we created the
> vocabulary, nobody could quite remember what it was supposed to mean,
> in particular because the "geo" part made us suspect it would have
> been a frame for Earth.
>
> At the recent Interop, JJ Kavelaars recognised what this was supposed
> to mean: geocentric apparent positions. Even though the term is
> deprecated (and we will not un-deprecate it for reasons mentioned
> below), we should fix the ugly label and description. This is what
> VEP-017 tries:
>
> Vocabulary: http://www.ivoa.net/rdf/refframe
> Author: Markus Demleitner <msdemlei at ari.uni-heidelberg.de> and J.J. Kavelaars
> Date: 2024-11-17
>
> New Term: geo_app
> Action: Modification
> Label: Geocentric Apparent Positions
> Description: Positions given as observed by a fictitious observer at the
> Earth’ s centre for the equator of observation.
> Relationships: narrower than #EQUATORIAL
> Used-in: VOTable legacy
>
> Rationale:
> When the legacy VOTable terms were added to the refframe vocabulary
> (which was necessary to keep validity criteria when VOTable changed
> COOSYS/@system to being controlled by this vocabulary), nobody rememberd
> what geo_app might have meant. It recently turned out that it must
> have been “Geocentric Apparent”, a frame used primarly in geodesy and
> solar system science. It is documented to some extent in
> https://starlink.eao.hawaii.edu/docs/sun211.htx/sun211ss454.html.
>
> This VEP replaces label, description, and relationship for the concept.
> At this point, this is a deprecated concept, and since it is mixing
> refposition and frame ("geocentre" vs. "apparent positions at equator of
> epoch"), we quite certainly won't want anyone to use it. We still want
> to update the concept metadata and hence ask for exemption from the
> “must be used somewhere” rule.
>
> https://github.com/ivoa-std/VEPs/blob/d79185c3a36bf704b84fe439ba4513b8cfb5304e/VEP-017.txt
>
> Comments? Thoughts? I'd say this is reasonably harmless, and so I'd
> suggest to bring this to the TCG in about two weeks if nobody
> protests here.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Markus
>
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