UCD requests from CASDA Project
Frederic V. Hessman
hessman at astro.physik.uni-goettingen.de
Tue Jun 21 12:24:50 CEST 2016
Dear Jessica et al.:
Currently, the UCD’s are a mixed bag, semantically, where one notices that they have grown organicallly out of need rather than from a planned semantic scheme. Straight-forward terms like
arith.integrated
meta.deconvolved
meta.corrected
stat.centroid
stat.fwhm
stat.rms
phys.polarization.stokes.I
phys.polarization.stokes.Q
phys.polarization.stokes.U
phys.polarization.stokes.V
are obviously needed.
Highly specialized terms like
spect.curvature
em.wl.squared Wavelength squared' is used in polarisation studies as it relates to Farady rotation
are best kept within a specialized vocabulary - UCD can’t possibly cover everything. Similarly, the highly specialized composite term
instr.rmsf Rotation measure and the rotation measure spread function are used in radio astronomy polarisation studies
is really “rotation-measure” + “spread-function”, i.e. a better generic description would be
phys.polarisation.rotMeasure;stat.pdf
(I’ve added the new UCD “stat.pdf” for a “probability distribution function”, for which I couldn’t find a reasonable composite replacement)
Other composite terms like
spect.line.width20 Spectral line width at 20 per cent of peak
(concept plus a numerical value) are trickier - why not then spect.line.width10? spect.line.width.5? spect.line.width.12.345? Perhaps we can assume that 1, 5, 10, and … limits on a PDF are common enough that we need standard terms. Or how does one attach metadata to this metadata without using totally new metadata links? Something like
spect.line.width;value=20
rather than a more complex solution like
<param ucd=“spect.line.width name=“linewidth">1.2345</param>
<param ucd=“stat.pdf.margin” ref=“linewidth">20</param>
(whoops - another new term, “stat.pdf.margin”).
Similar problem in
src.asymmetry.2d measure of 2-d asymmetry
src.asymmetry.3d measure of 3-d asymmetry
i.e. what about src.asymmetry.4d? Composite equivalent would be more like
src.morph;stat.asymmetry
(whoops - another new term, “stat.asymmetry”).
The term
em.freq.width measure of width in frequency
follows generic UCD use, but we see how there’s *.width creep taking place here: where do we stop? How about “phot.color.excess.width”?
I’m not even sure what
spect.dopplerVeloc.width Measure of spectral width in velocity
is supposed to mean: the velocity width of a spectra feature caused solely by Doppler shifts (as opposed to other broadening mechanisms)? Why not then
spect.line.broad;phys.doppler
(again had to invent “phys.doppler”)?
The problem with “pixel” and “voxel” is that pixel is a subset of voxels, interpreting the latter as a generalized n-dimensional “pixel” (even though it is most often used as a 3-D volumic “pixel”). Thus, everywhere where one uses “pixel” one could just as easily use “voxel” - unless we need a new generic term …. “genxel”? ;-D In the interest of generality, we do then need
instr.voxel
and really should be removing “pixel”.
With
phot.flux.density.voxel flux density of a voxel
do we then need "phot.flux.density.pixel”? or shouldn’t one use
phot.flux.density;instr.voxel
or isn’t there hidden complexity here: flux-density PER voxel or somehow associated with voxels (e.g. measuring using voxels)? How about
phot.flux.density;instr.voxel;artih.ratio
to indicate “flux-density per voxel”?
The problem of extending UCD is that we can either
- keep it lean (well, the present fat is there to stay….), forcing groups like CASDA to define their own (a good thing which forces everyone to acknowledge that the astronomical semantic world is complex so we have to deal with it rather than ignoring it or waiting for the IVOA to solve everyone’s problems); or
- let it expand to cover everyone’s needs, a lazy and chaotic way of solving the problem; or
- let it grow infinitesimally, knowing that our garden will always contain some weeds; or
- plant but ALSO prune propitiously so that we only have generic flowers, letting others worry about the weeds.
Rick
> On 21 Jun 2016, at 01:42, <Jessica.Chapman at csiro.au> <Jessica.Chapman at csiro.au> wrote:
>
> Dear Mireille and IVOA semantics group
>
> This is to send you a request now to consider some additional UCD terms. I'm attaching an excel file with a list of the terms we have needed for CASDA (so far) that are not in the standard vocabulary.
>
> If you have questions or need any additional information do contact us.
>
> Thanks and best wishes
>
> Jessica
>
>
> Dr Jessica Chapman
> CSIRO Astronomy and Space Science
> Data Management Leader
> PO Box 76, Epping, NSW 1710
>
> T: 02 9372 4196
> E: Jessica.Chapman at csiro.au
> W: www.atnf.csiro.au
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mireille Louys [mailto:mireille.louys at unistra.fr]
> Sent: Tuesday, 10 May 2016 10:21 PM
> To: Chapman, Jessica (CASS, Marsfield) <Jessica.Chapman at csiro.au>
> Subject: follow-up of Cape town semantics sesison
>
> Dear Jessica ,
>
> We'll set up a service for users to request new UCD terms after this meeting.
> In the mean time , would you mind to send the request for new terms as proposed in your ASKAP name space to the semantics at ivoa.net list ?
>
> I suggest to provide a short request entry with the new term , a short definition for this new term , and a short description for the context.
> This would help to launch the process.
>
> Thank you for pointing this need and opening for a better uptake for radio data.
>
> Best regards , Mireille Louys
>
> <ASKAP_UCDs.xlsx>
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