<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Hi Patrick,<div><br></div><div>There was something missed in the earlier response that I just noticed now.</div><div><br></div><div>The second validation error is due to the fact that that the CADC registry does not complain about the illegal parameter "test" in the below invocation:</div><div class="gmail_default"><br></div><div class="gmail_default"> <a href="https://www.cadc-ccda.hia-iha.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/reg/oai?verb=Identify&test=test" target="_blank">https://www.cadc-ccda.hia-iha.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/reg/oai?verb=Identify&test=test</a><br></div><div class="gmail_default"><br></div><div class="gmail_default">Whereas, e.g. the EuroVO handles that nicely:</div><div class="gmail_default"> </div><div class="gmail_default"> <a href="http://registry.euro-vo.org/oai.jsp?verb=Identify&test=test" target="_blank">http://registry.euro-vo.org/oai.jsp?verb=Identify&test=test</a></div><div class="gmail_default"><br></div><div class="gmail_default">Yulie</div><div class="gmail_default"><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 2:42 PM IVOA Registry of Registries <<a href="mailto:ivoa-rofr@cfa.harvard.edu">ivoa-rofr@cfa.harvard.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Hi Patrick,<div><br></div><div>We have reharvested your registry's document so now the https endpoint is registered.</div><div><br></div><div>The validation error is because the phase 1 OAI validation requires that schema locations are specified in the document, where phases 2 and 3 use schemas from the local RofR cache. This is the nature of the legacy third party SW that is used in the phase 1 and we are working on changing it. In the mean time if you want an error free validation you can change </div><div><br></div><div><div> <ri:Resource xmlns:ri="<a href="http://www.ivoa.net/xml/RegistryInterface/v1.0" target="_blank">http://www.ivoa.net/xml/RegistryInterface/v1.0</a>" xmlns:vg="<a href="http://www.ivoa.net/xml/VORegistry/v1.0" target="_blank">http://www.ivoa.net/xml/VORegistry/v1.0</a>" xmlns:vr="<a href="http://www.ivoa.net/xml/VOResource/v1.0" target="_blank">http://www.ivoa.net/xml/VOResource/v1.0</a>" xmlns:vs="<a href="http://www.ivoa.net/xml/VODataService/v1.1" target="_blank">http://www.ivoa.net/xml/VODataService/v1.1</a>" created="2011-12-09T14:24:09Z" status="active" updated="2019-06-14T16:00:00Z" xsi:type="vg:Registry"></div><div><br></div><div>to</div><div><br></div><div> <ri:Resource xmlns:ri="<a href="http://www.ivoa.net/xml/RegistryInterface/v1.0" target="_blank">http://www.ivoa.net/xml/RegistryInterface/v1.0</a>" xmlns:vg="<a href="http://www.ivoa.net/xml/VORegistry/v1.0" target="_blank">http://www.ivoa.net/xml/VORegistry/v1.0</a>" xmlns:vr="<a href="http://www.ivoa.net/xml/VOResource/v1.0" target="_blank">http://www.ivoa.net/xml/VOResource/v1.0</a>" xmlns:vs="<a href="http://www.ivoa.net/xml/VODataService/v1.1" target="_blank">http://www.ivoa.net/xml/VODataService/v1.1</a>" created="2011-12-09T14:24:09Z" status="active" updated="2019-06-14T16:00:00Z" xsi:type="vg:Registry"<br></div><div>xsi:schemaLocation="<a href="http://www.ivoa.net/xml/RegistryInterface/v1.0" target="_blank">http://www.ivoa.net/xml/RegistryInterface/v1.0</a><br> <a href="http://www.ivoa.net/xml/RegistryInterface/v1.0" target="_blank">http://www.ivoa.net/xml/RegistryInterface/v1.0</a><br> <a href="http://www.ivoa.net/xml/VODataService/v1.1" target="_blank">http://www.ivoa.net/xml/VODataService/v1.1</a><br> <a href="http://www.ivoa.net/xml/VODataService/v1.1" target="_blank">http://www.ivoa.net/xml/VODataService/v1.1</a><br> <a href="http://www.ivoa.net/xml/VOResource/v1.0" target="_blank">http://www.ivoa.net/xml/VOResource/v1.0</a><br> <a href="http://www.ivoa.net/xml/VOResource/v1.0" target="_blank">http://www.ivoa.net/xml/VOResource/v1.0</a><br> <a href="http://www.ivoa.net/xml/VORegistry/v1.0" target="_blank">http://www.ivoa.net/xml/VORegistry/v1.0</a><br> <a href="http://www.ivoa.net/xml/VORegistry/v1.0" target="_blank">http://www.ivoa.net/xml/VORegistry/v1.0</a>"></div></div><div><br></div><div>Yulie</div><div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 3:21 PM Patrick Dowler <<a href="mailto:pdowler.cadc@gmail.com" target="_blank">pdowler.cadc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Hi Yulie,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">last Saturday I updated all records to add a setSpec element, plus updated all URLs to https, and updated timestamps. So a full reharvest would be useful I think.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">One thing: the validator reports two schema validation errors for verb=Identify that I cannot reproduce.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">URL: <a href="https://www.cadc-ccda.hia-iha.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/reg/oai" target="_blank">https://www.cadc-ccda.hia-iha.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/reg/oai</a></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_-8197237345747311450gmail-m_2631533691056406869gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div>--<br></div><div>Patrick Dowler<br></div>Canadian Astronomy Data Centre<br></div>Victoria, BC, Canada<br></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 at 11:17, IVOA Registry of Registries <<a href="mailto:ivoa-rofr@cfa.harvard.edu" target="_blank">ivoa-rofr@cfa.harvard.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Hi Patrick,<div><br></div><div>When exactly did you update your registry? The registry's record was reharvested and updated in the RofR on April 19. At that time the accessURL was still http and update date "2018-01-24". For the record, all registry records were updated at that time regardless of their validation status. The current plan is to start reharvesting all records regularly and we are working on setting this up.</div><div><br></div><div>When I try to access your registry now either over http or https I am getting the same results. It is not clear why access over http is failing for the euro-VO but if needed we can reharvest and update it in the RofR again now before the next reharvest of all registries.</div><div><br></div><div>Yulie</div><div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 3:43 AM Kostandin Vrioni <<a href="mailto:k_vrioni@neuropublic.gr" target="_blank">k_vrioni@neuropublic.gr</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Dear Patrick,<div><br></div><div>We had recently a telecon on the RofR resource update and validation process, please check the link for details: </div><div><a href="https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/RegistryTelecon2019A" target="_blank">https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/RegistryTelecon2019A</a> </div><div><br></div><div>The problem I think is that we have 3 version of your Registry resource:</div><div><ul><li>In RofR: </li><ul><li><b>URL:</b> <a href="http://rofr.ivoa.net/cgi-bin/oai.pl?verb=GetRecord&metadataPrefix=ivo_vor&identifier=ivo://cadc.nrc.ca/registry" target="_blank">http://rofr.ivoa.net/cgi-bin/oai.pl?verb=GetRecord&metadataPrefix=ivo_vor&identifier=ivo://cadc.nrc.ca/registry</a> </li><li><b><b>Updated attribute</b>:</b> 2018-01-24</li><li><b>Harvest URL:</b> <a href="http://www.cadc-ccda.hia-iha.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/reg/oai" target="_blank">http://www.cadc-ccda.hia-iha.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/reg/oai</a></li></ul><li>In our registry:</li><ul><li><b>URL:</b> <a href="http://registry.euro-vo.org/oai.jsp?verb=GetRecord&metadataPrefix=ivo_vor&identifier=ivo://cadc.nrc.ca/registry" target="_blank">http://registry.euro-vo.org/oai.jsp?verb=GetRecord&metadataPrefix=ivo_vor&identifier=ivo://cadc.nrc.ca/registry</a></li><li><b>Updated attribute:</b> 2018-01-24</li><li><b>Harvest URL:</b> <a href="http://www.cadc-ccda.hia-iha.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/reg10/OAIHandlerv1_0" target="_blank">http://www.cadc-ccda.hia-iha.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/reg10/OAIHandlerv1_0</a></li></ul><li>In your registry: </li><ul><li><b>URL:</b> <a href="http://www.cadc-ccda.hia-iha.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/reg/oai?verb=Identify" target="_blank">http://www.cadc-ccda.hia-iha.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/reg/oai?verb=Identify</a></li><li><b>Updated attribute: </b>2019-06-14</li><li><b>Harvest URL:</b> <a href="https://www.cadc-ccda.hia-iha.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/reg/oai" target="_blank">https://www.cadc-ccda.hia-iha.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/reg/oai</a></li></ul></ul><div>Therefore:</div><div><ol><li>Our registry version has a wrong <b>Harvest URL </b>therefore is not updating your resource because it cannot reach the site at all.</li><li>Our registry is not updating your registry resource from RofR because both has <b>Updated attribute</b>: 2018-01-24.</li><li>The RofR is not updating your registry resource because your registry failed on RofR validation (see also the telecon notes)</li></ol><div><br></div><div><b>Solution</b>:</div></div></div><div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>I suggest you ask RofR for manual update of your resource and bypass the validation at least for this time.</div><div><br></div><div><div id="gmail-m_-8197237345747311450gmail-m_2631533691056406869gmail-m_1126014138224241410gmail-m_-3975557626241170916ext-gen1799" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;box-sizing:content-box;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><br></div><div id="gmail-m_-8197237345747311450gmail-m_2631533691056406869gmail-m_1126014138224241410gmail-m_-3975557626241170916ext-gen1799" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;box-sizing:content-box;color:rgb(34,34,34)">I remain at your disposal for any further information.</div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px;box-sizing:content-box;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><br style="box-sizing:content-box"></div><div 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<br><br><blockquote class="gmail-m_-8197237345747311450gmail-m_2631533691056406869gmail-m_1126014138224241410gmail-m_-3975557626241170916mori" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="gmail-m_-8197237345747311450gmail-m_2631533691056406869gmail-m_1126014138224241410gmail-m_-3975557626241170916mcntgmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail-m_-8197237345747311450gmail-m_2631533691056406869gmail-m_1126014138224241410gmail-m_-3975557626241170916mcntgmail_default" style="font-size:small">If I modify the records for my own registry internally an that is exposed via OAI publishing endpoint, is <a href="http://rofr.ivoa.net" target="_blank">rofr.ivoa.net</a> supposed to automatically pick that up? That is, does rofr periodically re-harvest/update registry records? Or are other harvesters expected to come to my OAI endpoint themselves? <br></div><div class="gmail-m_-8197237345747311450gmail-m_2631533691056406869gmail-m_1126014138224241410gmail-m_-3975557626241170916mcntgmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail-m_-8197237345747311450gmail-m_2631533691056406869gmail-m_1126014138224241410gmail-m_-3975557626241170916mcntgmail_default" style="font-size:small">Awhile back I changed the accessURL for our registry from http to https and I did change the timestamps as well. Then yesterday I was trying to figure out why CADC services had disappeared from the GAVO registry.... when I checked EuroVO registry it contained much older (2018-01-24) records than we are currently publishing (2019-04-05) for our registry itself. Costas <br></div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail-m_-8197237345747311450gmail-m_2631533691056406869gmail-m_1126014138224241410gmail-m_-3975557626241170916mcntgmail_default">says that EuroVO is comparing our registry record from rofr with the one it has and rofr has the 2018-01-24 record...</div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail-m_-8197237345747311450gmail-m_2631533691056406869gmail-m_1126014138224241410gmail-m_-3975557626241170916mcntgmail_default"><br></div><div class="gmail-m_-8197237345747311450gmail-m_2631533691056406869gmail-m_1126014138224241410gmail-m_-3975557626241170916mcntgmail_default" style="font-size:small">Do I need to poke rofr somehow? Can I automate that?</div><div class="gmail-m_-8197237345747311450gmail-m_2631533691056406869gmail-m_1126014138224241410gmail-m_-3975557626241170916mcntgmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail-m_-8197237345747311450gmail-m_2631533691056406869gmail-m_1126014138224241410gmail-m_-3975557626241170916mcntgmail_default" style="font-size:small">There was an issue where Identify returned an http URL which didn't match the https URL from ivo://<a href="http://cadc.nrc.ca/registry" target="_blank">cadc.nrc.ca/registry</a> but that is fixed and timestamps updated.. maybe that is related.<br></div><div class="gmail-m_-8197237345747311450gmail-m_2631533691056406869gmail-m_1126014138224241410gmail-m_-3975557626241170916mcntgmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail-m_-8197237345747311450gmail-m_2631533691056406869gmail-m_1126014138224241410gmail-m_-3975557626241170916mcntgmail_default" style="font-size:small">Aside: our registry is still a bit of a hack and fails OAI Validation - it does pass all IVOA and VOResource tests. </div><div><div class="gmail-m_-8197237345747311450gmail-m_2631533691056406869gmail-m_1126014138224241410gmail-m_-3975557626241170916mcntgmail_signature"><div><div><div><div><div>--<br></div><div>Patrick Dowler<span class="gmail-m_-8197237345747311450gmail-m_2631533691056406869gmail-m_1126014138224241410gmail-m_-3975557626241170916mcntgmail_default" style="font-size:small"></span><br></div>Canadian Astronomy Data Centre<br></div>Victoria, BC, Canada<br></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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