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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Not to bog down the whole list bug hunting, but for what it’s worth we’re using Gregory’s library (with a new “SQLServer” class on top) and queries returning
 res_subject columns currently work. If it’s a bug in the library itself (possible!) it’s database dependent.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I had already been considering setting aside some space in the Interop’s registry sessions for those of us working on RegTAP or clients to go over our found
 issues, especially as (noted below) changes can unfortunately still have side effects for other architecture. I am also planning on having some hack time with the folks at ROE and JHU using SQL Server for TAP. Would it be helpful to have a short forum and
 formally schedule a side workshop?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> registry-bounces@ivoa.net [mailto:registry-bounces@ivoa.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Menelaus Perdikeas<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 25, 2016 8:03 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Markus Demleitner<br>
<b>Cc:</b> registry@ivoa.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Problems with RegTAP, ADQL, natural joins, and MS SQL Server<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Hi Markus,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black;background:white">&gt;&nbsp;Oh? What would that be?</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black;background:white">We've found that we can do queries using TopCAT (RegTAP option) matching against all of the exposed fields (</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;background:white">Short
 Name</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black;background:white">,
</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;background:white">Title</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black;background:white">,
</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;background:white">Subjects</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black;background:white">,
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</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;background:white">Publisher</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black;background:white">,
</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;background:white">Description</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black;background:white">) or subsets of them thereof with the exception of the &quot;</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;background:white">Subjects</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black;background:white">&quot;
 fields.</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black;background:white">When the &quot;</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;background:white">Subjects</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black;background:white">&quot;
 field is checked&nbsp;the parsing fails. This&nbsp;can be either: (a) a bug in our configuration&nbsp;/ integration of Gregory's ADQL library&nbsp;or (b) a bug in the ADQL&nbsp;library itself.</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">I didn't have the time to get to the bottom of this and was hoping to resolve this during this Spring's InterOp.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">&gt; Will you be in Edinburgh to<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">&gt; the Tech Forum? &nbsp;If so, that could be a good place to sit together<br>
&gt; with Mark and optimise the query a bit.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">No,&nbsp;I was hoping to resolve the problem without&nbsp;asking Mark to accommodate us (since I guess every change in the queries emitted by TopCAT&nbsp;can&nbsp;disrupt other
 services as a side effect).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Menelaus.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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