Featherweight Publishing Registries

[Walter Landry]

Hi Alberto,

The only reason I am looking for a new approach is because the current
approach does not work that well.  Part of that is because the
protocol is overly complicated for what we are doing.  That makes
implementation difficult, and there are fewer off-the-shelf solutions
for us.  The mod_oai project you pointed to has not been updated in 8
years.  ResourceSync still requires server support and has even fewer
implementations.  It should not be this difficult for us to register
and maintain our entries.

The sitemap protocol supports the sitemap xml format, RSS and Atom
feeds, and plain text.  It does not require a special server.  I would
be happy enough with any of those formats.

Cheers,
Walter Landry

"Accomazzi, Alberto" <aaccomazzi at cfa.harvard.edu> wrote:
> Hi Walter,
> 
> It sounds like you are suggesting that we throw away OAI-PMH and start
> using an approach based on crawling documents and following links.  My
> first reaction is that it seems silly to deprecate a well-established
> mechanism for sharing resources just because the particular implementation
> you are using has poor performance.  At a minimum you should explore other
> options such as mod_oai (http://www.modoai.org/) or an OAI driver which
> directly hooks into your database.
> 
> Even if we decided that OAI-PMH is now getting a bit long in the tooth, I
> would suggest considering more modern and widespread standards designed for
> this purpose rather than reinventing the wheel.  Many of us (I think)
> already support web crawlers by using the sitemap protocol (
> http://www.sitemaps.org/protocol.html).  We could go even further and use
> ResourceSync which simply builds on top of sitemap and is expected to be
> the successor to OAI-PMH: http://www.openarchives.org/rs/toc
> 
> -- Alberto
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 9:28 PM, Walter Landry <wlandry at caltech.edu> wrote:
> 
>> Pierre Fernique wrote:
>> > I'm not sure that I understand your intention. Do you want to start a
>> > discussion on a new or alternate registry protocol ? Is your FPR
>> > proposal should be an alternative to the OAIP solution for non
>> > publishing VO registries ?
>> > I'm not at all a OAI fan but I think that we have to look carefully
>> > which impacts can have a such evolution.
>>
>> FPR is an alternative protocol for publishing registries.  I was not
>> aiming it towards other types of registries because I have no
>> experience with implementing or running those.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Walter Landry
>>
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Dr. Alberto Accomazzi
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