RM v1.1 feedback loop from VOResource

Tony Linde Tony.Linde at leicester.ac.uk
Wed Jun 8 14:43:03 PDT 2005


This discussion highlights the reason why I wanted to get the registry dm
worked on. I've been tied up since Kyoto but will get it restarted next week
(not that anyone on the tiger team has to wait for me).

T. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-registry at eso.org [mailto:owner-registry at eso.org] 
> On Behalf Of Ray Plante
> Sent: 08 June 2005 20:37
> To: registry at ivoa.net
> Subject: Re: RM v1.1 feedback loop from VOResource
> 
> Hey Doug,
> 
> On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Doug Tody wrote:
> > A use case is the query response for a DAL query.  What is 
> the value 
> > of the "Collection" attribute?  This same value may appear 
> as dataset 
> > metadata, e.g., in a FITS header, placed there by the data creator 
> > when the dataset is generated.  What a user might expect to see is 
> > something such as "SDSS-DR2", rather than a full IVOA 
> identifier.  In 
> > the case of a query parameter one would expect to specify something 
> > such as "collection=SDSS-DR2".  Ideally a short name such 
> as this is 
> > defined by the creator when the data collection is registered.
> 
> Is it safe to say that we have two consumers of this bit of 
> info, people and software?  
> 
> In RM, we have chosen to separate this use into the two 
> separate metadata: 
> "Identifier" for software use and "ShortName" for display to 
> users.  The Identifier URI addresses the scaling problems for 
> ensuring global 
> uniqueness associated with ShortName.   For effective use of 
> ShortName, it 
> need only be unique within some context (e.g. there's only 
> one SIA with a given shortname; see DataScope display), and 
> if it is really only being used for display, then it doesn't 
> break things if turns out not to be unique.  
> 
> So a possible solution is to have two different columns 
> returned, "collectionID" and "collectionSN" for returning 
> identifier and shortname, respectively.  If this seems too 
> "unnormalized", perhaps there's an easy way to record the 
> mapping of SN to ID elsewhere in the response (e.g. 
> addendum table in the VOTable file) and only list the 
> ShortName in the main table.)
> 
> cheers,
> Ray
> 
> 
> 



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