agenda for Strasbourg interop workshop

[Tony Linde]

Hi Bob,

Thanks. 

> Thanks Tony -- good start on an agenda.  My main suggestion 
> would be to keep the presentations shorter, say 15 min max, 

Sorry - unclear again. I meant that the presentations from each person named
should be less than 5 mins each and the rest of each session would be
discussion. I would expect that everyone at the meeting is up to date with
the *issues* from reading this list.

Cheers,
Tony. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Hanisch [mailto:rjhanisch at worldnet.att.net] 
> Sent: 15 September 2003 01:22
> To: Tony Linde; registry at ivoa.net
> Subject: Re: agenda for Strasbourg interop workshop
> 
> 
> Thanks Tony -- good start on an agenda.  My main suggestion 
> would be to keep the presentations shorter, say 15 min max, 
> so that we have time for some discussion and synthesis within 
> the WG.  I will have a poster up during the main ADASS 
> meeting about experiences with the metadata, and will draw on 
> that for our interop discussions.  Also agreed that we should 
> try to come closer to closure on identifiers prior to ADASS, 
> via e-mail.
> 
> I think the answer to point 3, " - what 'language' is used to 
> query a registry" is ADQL.  Registries are themselves 
> resources, and need to appear
> in registries. The ultimate self-reference!   We might need 
> an additional
> piece of metadata to help identify registries.  What do folks 
> think about this?
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tony Linde" <ael at star.le.ac.uk>
> To: <registry at ivoa.net>
> Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 12:10 PM
> Subject: RE: agenda for Strasbourg interop workshop
> 
> 
> > We need to agree an agenda for the Registry interop session 
> on Thu Oct
> 16th,
> > 10:30-12:30 (see below), so I'd like to suggest the following...
> >
> > First items on the agenda will be to agree the two formal 
> submissions 
> > to
> the
> > group:
> >
> > 1. Resource identifier:
> >     (http://ivoa.net/forum/registry/0420.htm)
> > This may need to take in some of the issues currently being 
> discussed 
> > on
> the
> > list wrt identity of non-registered entities and interaction with
> publishing
> > organisations but I hope this can be resolved beforehand on 
> the list.
> >
> > 2. The two documents describing registry metadata in textual form:
> >     (http://ivoa.net/forum/registry/0376.htm)
> > and in schema form:
> >     (http://ivoa.net/forum/registry/0429.htm)
> > There is a structural mismatch between the two since the second was
> devised
> > after the first with the goal of devising a more extensible 
> structure 
> > but
> it
> > should have the same content as the first. Agreement on these would 
> > precipitate a combined v0.9 RM plus schema.
> >
> > Secondly, we need to address other issues of interoperability which 
> > must
> be
> > standardised before we can deliver the promised fully interoperable 
> > Jan demos.
> >
> > 3. Registry call interface:
> >     - what are the minimum methods that a registry service 
> must provide
> >     - how are these described
> >     - what 'language' is used to query a registry
> >
> > 4. Replication/Harvesting:
> >     - how does a registry harvest metadata from cooperating services
> >     - how does a registry replicate its metadata to other registries
> >
> > Finally we need to identify what is necessary from the other interop
> working
> > groups to enable the Jan demos to proceed:
> >
> > 5. Calls for other standards:
> >     - what methods should a sky service provide as a minimum
> >     - ...
> >
> > Given that we only have two hours I doubt we could tackle any other 
> > issues in the time allowed (unless we can resolve some of 
> the above on 
> > the list beforehand). Can anyone suggest other issues?
> >
> >
> > Format of the meeting:
> >
> > Again, given the short duration, we won't have time for detailed 
> > presentations or papers so I'd like to suggest that anyone 
> who wants 
> > their views to be considered in a session should submit the 
> paper to 
> > the list before the meeting (pref by 8th Oct).
> >
> > I'd like to suggest the following people kick off the 
> sessions above 
> > with
> a
> > *short* presentation of the topic and issues and then lead the 
> > discussion, producing a couple of slides of summary for me 
> to present 
> > at the final
> > plenary:
> >
> > 10:30 Ray:       Resource identifier
> >
> > 11:00 Bob:       Resource metadata & schema
> >
> > 11:30 Elizabeth: Registry call interface
> >
> > 11:50 Keith:     Replication/Harvesting
> >
> > 12:10 Tony:      Other standards
> >
> >
> > How does this sound to everyone?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Tony.
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-interop at eso.org 
> [mailto:owner-interop at eso.org] On Behalf 
> > > Of Robert 
> Hanisch
> > > Sent: 12 September 2003 18:52
> > > To: interop at ivoa.net
> > > Subject: agenda for Strasbourg interop workshop
> > >
> > >
> > > Here is the agenda for the interop workshop to be held 
> Thu/Fri Oct 
> > > 16/17 following ADASS in Strasbourg.
> > >
> > > Thursday morning, 8:30-10:00
> > > o  Plenary
> > >     Goals for workshop
> > >     WG status briefings
> > >
> > > Thursday morning, 10:30-12:30
> > > 1a) Registries (Linde)
> > > 1b) Data models (McDowell)
> > > 1c) VOTable (Ochsenbein)
> > >
> > > Thursday afternoon, 1:30-3:30
> > > 2a) UCDs (Williams)
> > > 2b) Web/Grid services (Rixon)
> > >
> > > Thursday afternoon, 4:00-6:00
> > > 3a) VOQL (Ohishi)
> > > 3b) DAL (Tody)
> > >
> > > Friday, 8:30-4:30
> > > o  Plenary
> > >     WG presentations
> > >     Feedback and discussion
> > >     Should close with review of each WG's plans, goals, 
> > > dependencies, schedules.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Bob
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>