[Radioig] Notes from last week's telecon

BONNAREL FRANCOIS francois.bonnarel at astro.unistra.fr
Wed May 12 15:16:18 CEST 2021


Thanks for these notes Mark,
I only made a small fix on the ObsCoreExtension authorship. (in bold below)
Cheers
François
Le 11/05/2021 à 16:51, Mark Lacy a écrit :
> Hi All,
>
> Notes from last week's radio interest group video/telecon are below. 
> Let me know if I've missed anything or got something wrong. I hope to 
> hear/see some of you at the interop session in a couple of weeks.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mark
>
> Radio interest group 3rd Zooms 6th May 2021
>
> ObsCore extension:
>
> Francois presented the proposal for the ObsCore extension that had 
> been developed *by him and the CDS team within the scope of the ESCAPE 
> project.* It allows for ranges in resolution and field-of-view for 
> wide-band observations, includes the concept of largest angular scale, 
> and also other uv-plane and instrumental characterizations 
> (longest/shortest baselines, number of antennas, uv-plane filling 
> factor). It also includes time resolution ranges, and spectral ranges 
> expressed as frequencies instead of wavelengths. The proposal will be 
> placed on GitHub for comments, and discussed in the DM session in the 
> Interop.
>
> In meeting 1, most of the discussion revolved around how a row in the 
> ObsCore table should be defined, especially in terms of what common 
> key could be used to link the ObsCore extension to the primary ObsCore 
> Table (although the desirability of adding some of these new fields to 
> ObsCore was also discussed), and how DataLink services could be 
> implemented to fetch the relevant data.
>
> For ALMA, Felix Stoehr broke out target+spw combinations into separate 
> rows. Mark Kettenis said that JIVE takes the path of assigning a 
> single obs_publisher_did to an observation (which can contain many 
> sources and calibrators, and multiple bands). James Dempsey said that 
> ASKAP is relatively straightforward (one band), but ATCA data has 
> similar issues (multiple sources and bands in a single observation).
>
> It may be that datalink services could be used to download what the 
> user will need, e.g. a whole raw observation including calibrators in 
> some cases, or a calibrated dataset or image of a single source in 
> others.
>
> Frequency for specifying spectral range was widely supported.
>
> In meeting 2, the discussion was more focussed on what should be in 
> the ObsCore extension - Severin Gaudet pointed out that obscore was 
> designed to focus on the core properties of an observation for data 
> discovery, and perhaps some of the uv-plane and instrumental 
> characteristics might not be searched on much. Baptiste Cecconi 
> wondered whether frequencies need be added as they are redundant given 
> the wavelength ranges already in obscore, and a tool on the search 
> front end could be used to do the conversion. He also suggested that 
> we should work on mapping keywords from common data formats 
> ((A)SDM/SDFITS/PSRFITS etc) to ObsCore and the proposed extension.
>
> Implementation note:
>
> Stories from CASDA (JD), ASTRON (Yan?), MERLIN (PH) missing, JIVE 
> story needs an update (MK)
> ML will try to tidy it up in time for the Interop.
>
> Interop schedule:
>
> A 1hr session is tentatively scheduled for May 25th 22:00-23:00 UT.
>
> Speakers who’ve volunteered already:
> Mark Kettenis (VO implementation at JIVE and uv-plane characterization)
> Yan Grange (FRBs)
> Hendrik Heinl (LoFAR DR1)
> Peter Teuben (Single dish radio data in the VO and SDFITS)
> Ricardo Rizzo
>
> Other possible contributions:
> Susana Sanchez - provenance for radio data (may be scheduled in the DM 
> session, also dependent on approval from company working on the problem)
> Arecibo/CI CoE (may be scheduled in CSP)
>
>

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