<div dir="ltr">Hi Debbie,<div><br></div><div>Ah you&#39;re right -- I forgot to check if that was the right link. Thanks for pointing that out. Should we use the full link: &quot;<a href="http://ivoa.net/astronomers/applications" target="_blank">ivoa.net/astronomers/<wbr>applications</a>&quot; or a shortened URL, say, &quot;<a href="http://bit.ly/vo_apps" target="_blank">bit.ly/vo_apps</a>&quot;?  I like how easy &quot;vo_apps&quot; is to remember, but I&#39;d rather show &quot;<a href="http://ivoa.net" target="_blank">ivoa.net</a>&quot; so people know who&#39;s maintaining the apps list.</div><div><br></div><div>Here&#39;s another go, with the layout updates you suggested:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GCpb41WqbzEGg-QMkLI1noJqqZuA6l0e/view?usp=sharing">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GCpb41WqbzEGg-QMkLI1noJqqZuA6l0e/view?usp=sharing</a> -- PDF<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Jamie</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Deborah Baines <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:dbaines@sciops.esa.int" target="_blank">dbaines@sciops.esa.int</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <div class="m_7117101419800708736moz-cite-prefix">Hi Jamie,<br>
      <br>
      The handout is looking good! For the image layouts, perhaps VOSA
      can move to the right, to fill in the gap in the bottom right, and
      Topcat can move more to the bottom centre?<br>
      <br>
      Also the URL <a href="http://ivoa.net/applications" target="_blank">ivoa.net/applications</a> doesn&#39;t work, is the idea to
      create this as a short cut to
      <a class="m_7117101419800708736moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.ivoa.net/astronomers/applications.html" target="_blank">http://www.ivoa.net/<wbr>astronomers/applications.html</a> ? If not you&#39;ll
      have to put <a href="http://ivoa.net/astronomers/applications" target="_blank">ivoa.net/astronomers/<wbr>applications</a><br>
      <br>
      Many thanks,<br>
      Debbie<div><div class="h5"><br>
      <br>
      On 19/12/17 15:53, Budynkiewicz, Jamie Anne wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Hi Enrique,
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Thanks for the VOSA image. I was trying to work it into the
          handout with the limited space.  Here&#39;s a go at it:</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div><a href="https://drive.google.com/open?id=1n7p8y0vpvaoUQgi9SZcVCQUiY-57j4U9" target="_blank">https://drive.google.com/open?<wbr>id=1n7p8y0vpvaoUQgi9SZcVCQUiY-<wbr>57j4U9</a>
          -- ppt<br>
        </div>
        <div><a href="https://drive.google.com/open?id=1GCpb41WqbzEGg-QMkLI1noJqqZuA6l0e" target="_blank">https://drive.google.com/open?<wbr>id=1GCpb41WqbzEGg-<wbr>QMkLI1noJqqZuA6l0e</a>
          -- pdf<br>
        </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>I&#39;m not sure this is the most efficient layout. We can work
          something better later. Image layout suggestions are welcome.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Cheers,</div>
        <div>Jamie</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 9:02 AM,
          Enrique Solano <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:esm@cab.inta-csic.es" target="_blank">esm@cab.inta-csic.es</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hi Jamie, <br>
              <br>
              Thank you for the new version. I like it very much. <br>
              <br>
              The only problem I see is which tools to display. A
              reasonable approach would be to highlight those that are
              most popular among the community.  According to the VOpubs
              service (<a class="m_7117101419800708736m_3609152736524133146moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://sdc.cab.inta-csic.es/vopubs/jsp/search.jsp" target="_blank">https://sdc.cab.inta-csic.es/<wbr>vopubs/jsp/search.jsp</a>)
              these tools would be (in decreasing order of popularity):
              <br>
              <br>
              TOPCAT<br>
              <br>
              Aladin / Vizier<br>
              <br>
              VOSA <br>
              <br>
              STILTS<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              TOPCAT and Aladin are included but I am missing VOSA in
              the handout. Attached you&#39;ll find a snapshot <br>
              <br>
              Cheers, <br>
              <br>
              Enrique.
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                  <div class="m_7117101419800708736m_3609152736524133146moz-cite-prefix">On
                    19/12/17 14:35, Budynkiewicz, Jamie Anne wrote:<br>
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                      <div dir="auto">Hi Enrique,
                        <div dir="auto"><br>
                        </div>
                        <div dir="auto">Thank you for the feedback. Yes,
                          after looking at the handout again, I agree
                          it&#39;s too data provider/developer-heavy .  What
                          if the front-side is all science oriented, I
                          remove the bit about IVOA, and add that &quot;Want
                          your data and software accessible by VO tech?
                          Learn more at <a href="http://ivoa.net" target="_blank">ivoa.net</a>&quot;
                          on the back?</div>
                        <div dir="auto"><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Here&#39;s a new version:</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div><a href="https://drive.google.com/open?id=1X2i2XjzyNj_8OJ7e5-40-Vty2zU30iWV" target="_blank">https://drive.google.com/open?<wbr>id=1X2i2XjzyNj_8OJ7e5-40-Vty2z<wbr>U30iWV</a>
                          -- ppt<br>
                        </div>
                        <div><a href="https://drive.google.com/open?id=11ScIsVesGKY8COgYGDp6kQ405SpNXFyc" target="_blank">https://drive.google.com/open?<wbr>id=11ScIsVesGKY8COgYGDp6kQ405S<wbr>pNXFyc</a>
                          -- PDF<br>
                        </div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>I&#39;m looking for VO tool images to put on
                          the front, but in the meantime, this is what I
                          was thinking the pictures could look like.
                          This feels like the hard part... ;) I&#39;m
                          looking for:</div>
                        <div>  - other images for tools from AAS
                          exhibitors, if they don&#39;t like the ones here
                          (from NAVO, CfA, CDS, etc...)</div>
                        <div>  - another analysis tool/image to show. 
                          There&#39;s Iris (a SED tool), but I&#39;m blanking on
                          more widely-known tools at the moment.</div>
                        <div dir="auto"><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>For the back, I&#39;d like some of the AAS
                          exhibitors&#39; inputs. I was thinking of
                          organizing the logos in other sections: 
                          &quot;these booths have data access demos&quot;, &quot;these
                          booths have analysis tool demos&quot;, &quot;these demos
                          show interoperability&quot;, or something like
                          that... Or, we can be more general and say,
                          &quot;come to these booths for VO software demos&quot;.</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Thanks,</div>
                        <div>Jamie</div>
                      </div>
                      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                      </div>
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Enrique Solano
Spanish Virtual Observatory
Centro de Astrobiología (INTA-CSIC). Campus Villafranca
Camino Bajo del Castillo, s/n
28692 Villanueva de la Cañada
Madrid (SPAIN)
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                <div>Jamie A. Budynkiewicz<br>
                </div>
                Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory<br>
              </div>
              <div>Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics<br>
              </div>
              <a href="https://maps.google.com/?q=100+Acorn+Park+Dr&amp;entry=gmail&amp;source=g">100 Acorn Park Dr</a>. R-377 MS-81<br>
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            Cambridge, MA 02140<br>
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