<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi Jamie<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">We will be having a NAVO telecon tomorrow - would it be OK to share the latest version with the NAVO members.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Bruce</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 19, 2017, at 7:44 AM, Budynkiewicz, Jamie Anne <<a href="mailto:jbudynkiewicz@cfa.harvard.edu" class="">jbudynkiewicz@cfa.harvard.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Hi Debbie,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Ah you're right -- I forgot to check if that was the right link. Thanks for pointing that out. Should we use the full link: "<a href="http://ivoa.net/astronomers/applications" target="_blank" class="">ivoa.net/astronomers/<wbr class="">applications</a>" or a shortened URL, say, "<a href="http://bit.ly/vo_apps" target="_blank" class="">bit.ly/vo_apps</a>"? I like how easy "vo_apps" is to remember, but I'd rather show "<a href="http://ivoa.net/" target="_blank" class="">ivoa.net</a>" so people know who's maintaining the apps list.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Here's another go, with the layout updates you suggested:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GCpb41WqbzEGg-QMkLI1noJqqZuA6l0e/view?usp=sharing" class="">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GCpb41WqbzEGg-QMkLI1noJqqZuA6l0e/view?usp=sharing</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>-- PDF<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks,</div><div class="">Jamie</div></div><div class="gmail_extra" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Deborah Baines<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:dbaines@sciops.esa.int" target="_blank" class="">dbaines@sciops.esa.int</a>></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""><div class="m_7117101419800708736moz-cite-prefix">Hi Jamie,<br class=""><br class="">The handout is looking good! For the image layouts, perhaps VOSA can move to the right, to fill in the gap in the bottom right, and Topcat can move more to the bottom centre?<br class=""><br class="">Also the URL<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://ivoa.net/applications" target="_blank" class="">ivoa.net/applications</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>doesn't work, is the idea to create this as a short cut to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a class="m_7117101419800708736moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.ivoa.net/astronomers/applications.html" target="_blank">http://www.ivoa.net/<wbr class="">astronomers/applications.html</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>? If not you'll have to put<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://ivoa.net/astronomers/applications" target="_blank" class="">ivoa.net/astronomers/<wbr class="">applications</a><br class=""><br class="">Many thanks,<br class="">Debbie<div class=""><div class="h5"><br class=""><br class="">On 19/12/17 15:53, Budynkiewicz, Jamie Anne wrote:<br class=""></div></div></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr" class="">Hi Enrique,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks for the VOSA image. I was trying to work it into the handout with the limited space. Here's a go at it:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://drive.google.com/open?id=1n7p8y0vpvaoUQgi9SZcVCQUiY-57j4U9" target="_blank" class="">https://drive.google.com/open?<wbr class="">id=1n7p8y0vpvaoUQgi9SZcVCQUiY-<wbr class="">57j4U9</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>-- ppt<br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://drive.google.com/open?id=1GCpb41WqbzEGg-QMkLI1noJqqZuA6l0e" target="_blank" class="">https://drive.google.com/open?<wbr class="">id=1GCpb41WqbzEGg-<wbr class="">QMkLI1noJqqZuA6l0e</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>-- pdf<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I'm not sure this is the most efficient layout. We can work something better later. Image layout suggestions are welcome.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers,</div><div class="">Jamie</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 9:02 AM, Enrique Solano<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:esm@cab.inta-csic.es" target="_blank" class="">esm@cab.inta-csic.es</a>></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000" class="">Hi Jamie,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">Thank you for the new version. I like it very much.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">The only problem I see is which tools to display. A reasonable approach would be to highlight those that are most popular among the community. According to the VOpubs service (<a class="m_7117101419800708736m_3609152736524133146moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://sdc.cab.inta-csic.es/vopubs/jsp/search.jsp" target="_blank">https://sdc.cab.inta-csic.es/<wbr class="">vopubs/jsp/search.jsp</a>) these tools would be (in decreasing order of popularity):<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">TOPCAT<br class=""><br class="">Aladin / Vizier<br class=""><br class="">VOSA<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">STILTS<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">TOPCAT and Aladin are included but I am missing VOSA in the handout. Attached you'll find a snapshot<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">Cheers,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">Enrique.<div class=""><div class="m_7117101419800708736h5"><br class=""><br class=""><div class="m_7117101419800708736m_3609152736524133146moz-cite-prefix">On 19/12/17 14:35, Budynkiewicz, Jamie Anne wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Hi Enrique,<div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Thank you for the feedback. Yes, after looking at the handout again, I agree it's too data provider/developer-heavy . What if the front-side is all science oriented, I remove the bit about IVOA, and add that "Want your data and software accessible by VO tech? Learn more at<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://ivoa.net/" target="_blank" class="">ivoa.net</a>" on the back?</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Here's a new version:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://drive.google.com/open?id=1X2i2XjzyNj_8OJ7e5-40-Vty2zU30iWV" target="_blank" class="">https://drive.google.com/open?<wbr class="">id=1X2i2XjzyNj_8OJ7e5-40-Vty2z<wbr class="">U30iWV</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>-- ppt<br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://drive.google.com/open?id=11ScIsVesGKY8COgYGDp6kQ405SpNXFyc" target="_blank" class="">https://drive.google.com/open?<wbr class="">id=11ScIsVesGKY8COgYGDp6kQ405S<wbr class="">pNXFyc</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>-- PDF<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I'm looking for VO tool images to put on the front, but in the meantime, this is what I was thinking the pictures could look like. This feels like the hard part... ;) I'm looking for:</div><div class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>- other images for tools from AAS exhibitors, if they don't like the ones here (from NAVO, CfA, CDS, etc...)</div><div class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>- another analysis tool/image to show. There's Iris (a SED tool), but I'm blanking on more widely-known tools at the moment.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">For the back, I'd like some of the AAS exhibitors' inputs. I was thinking of organizing the logos in other sections: "these booths have data access demos", "these booths have analysis tool demos", "these demos show interoperability", or something like that... Or, we can be more general and say, "come to these booths for VO software demos".</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks,</div><div class="">Jamie</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""></div></div></blockquote><br class=""></div></div><span class=""><pre class="m_7117101419800708736m_3609152736524133146moz-signature" cols="72">--
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