<div dir="ltr">Bruce,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for the inputs. I'll go with the "general" approach as you pinned as the better idea.<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 2:57 PM, Bruce Berriman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:GBB@ipac.caltech.edu" target="_blank">GBB@ipac.caltech.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Hi Jamie<div><br></div><div>Please see notes below.</div><div><br></div><div>=Bruce</div><div><br><div><span><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Dec 18, 2017, at 7:54 AM, Budynkiewicz, Jamie Anne <<a href="mailto:jbudynkiewicz@cfa.harvard.edu" target="_blank">jbudynkiewicz@cfa.harvard.edu</a><wbr>> wrote:</div><br class="gmail-m_4022024482776042498m_7933903916568361370m_8938529890314400503Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">Hi Bruce,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for the inputs. And totally understandable Hmm... didn't think of the time restraints for booth materials. And making sure all IVOA partner institutes' efforts are somehow contained in that handout. Good things to keep in mind.</div><div><br></div><div>Concerning the booth materials problem, we could still at least hand them out at the Student Reception on Monday night. If an institute or person wants to take some anyway, they could print out some copies (or grab some from us).<br></div><div><br></div><div>Concerning what's on the handout, we could make the information more general than a list of useful tools and services. We could provide a link to the Tools page on <a href="http://ivoa.net/" target="_blank">ivoa.net</a> (making sure the page is up-to-date before AAS). </div><div><br></div><div>Some ideas:</div><div> - If we decide to highlight anything, could we highlight the tools/services advertized by the IVOA exhibitors at AAS? For other conferences, we could update the highlighted list to tune to the exhibitors at that meeting</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span>>> This might be useful, but this may run into political difficulties if, e.g., all NAVO member partners don’t think they are fully represented</div><div><br></div><div><span><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div> - cons: it wouldn't be a great representation of all the work done by IVOA partners; it would be localized to the meeting location</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span>yes, but please be aware: organization specific exhibits are not about what other organizations have achieved,</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div> - Be general (e.g., Get Data, Analyze, and Publish -- check out the links. Here's a tiny blurb on what the IVOA is), but point to IVOA partner booths, related presentations (that we know of... this part might be hard at this stage…)</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Thus might be the safest route.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Great, I'll tailor it this way then. Plus, it gives us the opportunity to re-use the general stuff at other conferences.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><div><span><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div> - We could have one handout at the undergraduate reception, and another for tables. I'm thinking, here's a list of tools for getting, analyzing, viewing, sharing data that would be useful to an undergrad student.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span>Does anyone need to approve material handed out at the undergraduate reception?</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I haven't asked anyone on the AAS short meeting contact list, but Rodolfo Montez had originally suggested the idea, and since he's an AAS organizer, I'm thinking it's OK. I remember random people walking around handing out business cards / flyers when I attended the undergrad reception in 2013, too. But I'll send an email to one of the official contacts just to make sure. </div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><div><br></div><div>One approach may be: US is part of the IVOA (through the USVOA) , whose protocols are built into services released at NED, HEASARC .. and are built into the following tools used by astronomers worldwide.</div></div></div></blockquote><div>I'll try it, thanks</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><span class="gmail-m_4022024482776042498m_7933903916568361370HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>Bruce</div><div><br></div></font></span><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><div class="gmail-m_4022024482776042498m_7933903916568361370h5"><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div><br></div><div>I'll work on a couple ideas and send it out to the media group by the end of the day (~6:00pm EST). If anyone has more ideas/comments today or tomorrow, please share them and we can work them into the handout drafts.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks!</div><div>Jamie</div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="gmail-m_4022024482776042498m_7933903916568361370h5">On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 6:59 PM, Bruce Berriman<span class="gmail-m_4022024482776042498m_7933903916568361370m_8938529890314400503Apple-converted-space"> </span><span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gbb@ipac.caltech.edu" target="_blank">gbb@ipac.caltech.edu</a><wbr>></span><span class="gmail-m_4022024482776042498m_7933903916568361370m_8938529890314400503Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><div class="gmail-m_4022024482776042498m_7933903916568361370h5">Hi Jamie,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for the e-mail. Thanks for offering to get this started - I regret I have a lot of deadlines in the next week (including the NAVO workshop for AAS) and can’t really take on the role of leading another task.</div><div><br></div><div>There are matters for us to consider though. How would this handout be distributed? An obvious answer is from the from exhibits of organizations involved in VO work. But that may not be that simple. All materials distributed at the IPAC booth have to be approved beforehand (and there are always changes!), and our materials are supposed to be complete by this Friday. I am sure the other organizations have comparable review processes and deadlines. </div><div><br></div><div>What to include? Again not trivial - let’s say (just for example) we decide to talk about TOPCAT and ESASky. Such a handout would never be permitted at the IPAC booth because IPAC played no part in deploying these services. Now, I don’t have a answer to what we talk about, but I think if distributed through several booths, it has to emphasize things that are of value to the US community that the broader US VO effort was involved in. Will try to find a few cycles in the next day or so to think about this,so I’ll get back to you.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div><br></div><div>Bruce</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="gmail-m_4022024482776042498m_7933903916568361370h5"><div><div class="gmail-m_4022024482776042498m_7933903916568361370m_8938529890314400503h5"><div>On Dec 13, 2017, at 12:06 PM, Budynkiewicz, Jamie Anne <<a href="mailto:jbudynkiewicz@cfa.harvard.edu" target="_blank">jbudynkiewicz@cfa.harvard.edu</a><wbr>> wrote:</div><br class="gmail-m_4022024482776042498m_7933903916568361370m_8938529890314400503m_8340740828116717900Apple-interchange-newline"></div></div></div></div><div><div><div class="gmail-m_4022024482776042498m_7933903916568361370h5"><div><div class="gmail-m_4022024482776042498m_7933903916568361370m_8938529890314400503h5"><div dir="ltr">Dear all,<div><br></div><div>One of the items on our list was to come up with a VO handout for conferences. We have AAS coming up in a couple weeks (Jan 7-12), plus EWASS in April. </div><div><br></div><div>So I ask all of us: </div><div><br></div><div> <span class="gmail-m_4022024482776042498m_7933903916568361370m_8938529890314400503Apple-converted-space"> </span>1.) What VO tools and services should be highlighted on the handout?</div><div> <span class="gmail-m_4022024482776042498m_7933903916568361370m_8938529890314400503Apple-converted-space"> </span>2.) Who wants to take the lead on making sure a handout gets sent to the Exec?</div><div> - (if no one takes the lead by Saturday, I'm happy to take it and get something together)</div><div><div><br></div><div>I talked with Pepi this week, and she says it'd be good to have a draft handout for the Exec telecon meeting next week, **Tuesday, Dec 19**. </div><div><br></div><div>I know it's a bit late in the game, so all inputs are greatly appreciated. I'll be on Slack (<a href="https://ivoa.slack.com/" target="_blank">https://ivoa.slack.com</a>) throughout the week if people want to brainstorm ideas / show handout drafts.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks!</div><div>Jamie</div><div><br></div>--<span class="gmail-m_4022024482776042498m_7933903916568361370m_8938529890314400503Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><div class="gmail-m_4022024482776042498m_7933903916568361370m_8938529890314400503m_8340740828116717900gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Jamie A. Budynkiewicz<br></div>Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory<br></div><div>Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics<br></div><a href="https://maps.google.com/?q=100+Acorn+Park+Dr&entry=gmail&source=g" target="_blank">100 Acorn Park Dr</a>. 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