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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dear Pepi,<br>
      <br>
      All images have the same fixed width, if I increase the size/width
      of one I should really do this for all to keep the same format.
      However, every image is clickable and a larger image appears which
      is readable for the user. I prefer not to increase the size of the
      images if that's ok, since the option of clicking on them is
      provided? (see the previous newsletter as an example:
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.ivoa.net/newsletter/017/index.html">http://www.ivoa.net/newsletter/017/index.html</a> )<br>
      <br>
      Many thanks,<br>
      Debbie<br>
      <br>
      On 15/12/17 12:29, Pepi Fabbiano wrote:<br>
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      Dear Debbie
      <div>It looks good but you may want to enlarge some figures to
        make them more visible. </div>
      <div>Thanks. </div>
      <div>-pepi<br>
        <br>
        <div id="AppleMailSignature">Sent from my iPhone</div>
        <div><br>
          On Dec 15, 2017, at 5:19 AM, Deborah Baines &lt;<a
            href="mailto:dbaines@sciops.esa.int" moz-do-not-send="true">dbaines@sciops.esa.int</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
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            <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dear Pepi and All,<br>
              <br>
              I've started to change the format so the text wraps around
              the images (currently for the IVOA News section), before I
              continue, please see the attached and let me know if you
              are happy with the change, and I'll then apply it to the
              schools and workshops, and VO apps sections.<br>
              <br>
              Many thanks,<br>
              Debbie<br>
              <br>
              On 14/12/17 18:21, Fabbiano, Giuseppina wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CADMw+Ptc_y7m+e-+x=AQ6CbkR_tet=ZXM57s9vzR6vExQ2gG3w@mail.gmail.com">
              <div dir="ltr">In the long term, it seems to be that the
                easier path would be to change the format, to avoid too
                many restrictions on contributors.
                <div>Cheers,</div>
                <div> -pepi</div>
              </div>
              <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 11:29
                  AM, Deborah Baines <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                      href="mailto:dbaines@sciops.esa.int"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">dbaines@sciops.esa.int</a>&gt;</span>
                  wrote:<br>
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                      <div class="m_-4642515803473471479moz-cite-prefix">Hi
                        Pepi,<br>
                        <br>
                        Looking at the previous newsletters (or at least
                        number 10 onwards) I see that the articles are
                        becoming longer as a function of time! My
                        suggests are the following: either the format is
                        changed as you suggest, and the text is wrapped
                        around the figures, or we stick with the format
                        and cut down the length of the articles and/or
                        edit &amp; add more images so they are
                        approximately the same height as the article.<br>
                        <br>
                        Many thanks,<br>
                        Debbie
                        <div>
                          <div class="h5"><br>
                            <br>
                            On 14/12/17 17:13, Fabbiano, Giuseppina
                            wrote:<br>
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                            <div dir="ltr">Hi Debbie,
                              <div>Yes, I was talking about the white
                                space below the figures. It struck me
                                that it may look better to have the text
                                wrap around the figures, or at least a
                                2-column format, to avoid these white
                                spaces. Or enlarge the figures.</div>
                              <div>I welcome comments from others on
                                this suggestion.</div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>Thanks,</div>
                              <div> -pepi</div>
                            </div>
                            <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                              <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 14,
                                2017 at 10:57 AM, Deborah Baines <span
                                  dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                    href="mailto:dbaines@sciops.esa.int"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">dbaines@sciops.esa.int</a>&gt;</span>
                                wrote:<br>
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                                      class="m_-4642515803473471479m_1177322011467427981moz-cite-prefix">Dear
                                      Pepi,<br>
                                      <br>
                                      I'm not sure exactly what you mean
                                      by a lot of white spaces, are you
                                      seeing many white spaces in the
                                      'image' region, next to the
                                      article, or between one article
                                      and the next? The format is
                                      identical to the format in
                                      previous newsletters. If you are
                                      opening the html in a browser, it
                                      might be displaying differently to
                                      how I see it (I'm opening it in
                                      Firefox v52 in Linux). Attached
                                      are some screen shots of how I see
                                      the newsletter (and how I hope it
                                      should appear in the final <a
                                        href="http://ivoa.net"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">ivoa.net</a>
                                      web page). If there are many white
                                      spaces it might be because the
                                      articles are too long and need to
                                      be cut down, or we should add some
                                      more images, for example group
                                      photo at the interop, another
                                      screen shot for the Aladin
                                      article, AAO article, and I canl
                                      crop the ASTERICS workshop image
                                      so it's taller? <br>
                                      <br>
                                      Many thanks,<br>
                                      Debbie
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                                          <br>
                                          On 13/12/17 17:20, Fabbiano,
                                          Giuseppina wrote:<br>
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                                          <div dir="ltr">Thank you,
                                            Debbie.
                                            <div><br>
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                                            <div>There are some oddities
                                              in formatting, at least in
                                              the version I downloaded. </div>
                                            <div>A lot of white spaces,
                                              and the figures are not
                                              well integrated with the
                                              text. This make the visual
                                              experience hard on the
                                              reader.</div>
                                            <div>Also, at the end of
                                              last page, the last icon
                                              appears truncated.</div>
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>Cheers,</div>
                                            <div> -pepi</div>
                                          </div>
                                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                            <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                              Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 10:59
                                              AM, Deborah Baines <span
                                                dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                                  href="mailto:dbaines@sciops.esa.int"
                                                  target="_blank"
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true">dbaines@sciops.esa.int</a>&gt;</span>
                                              wrote:<br>
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                                                style="margin:0 0 0
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                                                solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear
                                                IVOA Exec and Media
                                                group,<br>
                                                <br>
                                                Please find attached the
                                                edited version for the
                                                next IVOA Newsletter,
                                                number 18, and a pdf
                                                version here:<br>
                                                <br>
                                                <a
href="http://vospace.esac.esa.int/vospace/sh/152037173a861969293b7ba95a80b96b6ab5461c?dl=1"
                                                  rel="noreferrer"
                                                  target="_blank"
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true">http://vospace.esac.esa.int/vo<wbr>space/sh/152037173a861969293b7<wbr>ba95a80b96b6ab5461c?dl=1</a><br>
                                                <br>
                                                Let me know of any
                                                corrections or if you
                                                are happy with the
                                                current version (and
                                                I'll then contact the
                                                document coordinators).<br>
                                                <br>
                                                Many thanks and kind
                                                regards,<br>
                                                Debbie<br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
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Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics</i></div>
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QUASAR Science Resources for ESA - European Space Agency

Dr. Deborah Baines
ESDC Scientist

ESAC Science Data Centre (ESDC)
Data and Engineering Division 
Operations Department, Directorate of Science
European Space Astronomy Centre (ESAC)
European Space Agency (ESA)

Camino Bajo del Castillo s/n
Urb. Villafranca del Castillo
E-28692 Villanueva de la Cañada, Madrid, Spain
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Tel. +34 918 131 146  | Fax  +34 918 131 218
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