<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Dear Debbie<div>It looks good but you may want to enlarge some figures to make them more visible.&nbsp;</div><div>Thanks.&nbsp;</div><div>-pepi<br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature">Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Dec 15, 2017, at 5:19 AM, Deborah Baines &lt;<a href="mailto:dbaines@sciops.esa.int">dbaines@sciops.esa.int</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
  
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dear Pepi and All,<br>
      <br>
      I've started to change the format so the text wraps around the
      images (currently for the IVOA News section), before I continue,
      please see the attached and let me know if you are happy with the
      change, and I'll then apply it to the schools and workshops, and
      VO apps sections.<br>
      <br>
      Many thanks,<br>
      Debbie<br>
      <br>
      On 14/12/17 18:21, Fabbiano, Giuseppina wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">In the long term, it seems to be that the easier
        path would be to change the format, to avoid too many
        restrictions on contributors.
        <div>Cheers,</div>
        <div>&nbsp;-pepi</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 11:29 AM,
          Deborah Baines <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:dbaines@sciops.esa.int" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">dbaines@sciops.esa.int</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
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              <div class="m_-4642515803473471479moz-cite-prefix">Hi
                Pepi,<br>
                <br>
                Looking at the previous newsletters (or at least number
                10 onwards) I see that the articles are becoming longer
                as a function of time! My suggests are the following:
                either the format is changed as you suggest, and the
                text is wrapped around the figures, or we stick with the
                format and cut down the length of the articles and/or
                edit &amp; add more images so they are approximately the
                same height as the article.<br>
                <br>
                Many thanks,<br>
                Debbie
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                    On 14/12/17 17:13, Fabbiano, Giuseppina wrote:<br>
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                    <div dir="ltr">Hi Debbie,
                      <div>Yes, I was talking about the white space
                        below the figures. It struck me that it may look
                        better to have the text wrap around the figures,
                        or at least a 2-column format, to avoid these
                        white spaces. Or enlarge the figures.</div>
                      <div>I welcome comments from others on this
                        suggestion.</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Thanks,</div>
                      <div>&nbsp;-pepi</div>
                    </div>
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at
                        10:57 AM, Deborah Baines <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:dbaines@sciops.esa.int" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">dbaines@sciops.esa.int</a>&gt;</span>
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                            <div class="m_-4642515803473471479m_1177322011467427981moz-cite-prefix">Dear
                              Pepi,<br>
                              <br>
                              I'm not sure exactly what you mean by a
                              lot of white spaces, are you seeing many
                              white spaces in the 'image' region, next
                              to the article, or between one article and
                              the next? The format is identical to the
                              format in previous newsletters. If you are
                              opening the html in a browser, it might be
                              displaying differently to how I see it
                              (I'm opening it in Firefox v52 in Linux).
                              Attached are some screen shots of how I
                              see the newsletter (and how I hope it
                              should appear in the final <a href="http://ivoa.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ivoa.net</a> web
                              page). If there are many white spaces it
                              might be because the articles are too long
                              and need to be cut down, or we should add
                              some more images, for example group photo
                              at the interop, another screen shot for
                              the Aladin article, AAO article, and I
                              canl crop the ASTERICS workshop image so
                              it's taller? <br>
                              <br>
                              Many thanks,<br>
                              Debbie
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                                  On 13/12/17 17:20, Fabbiano,
                                  Giuseppina wrote:<br>
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                                  <div dir="ltr">Thank you, Debbie.
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                                    <div>There are some oddities in
                                      formatting, at least in the
                                      version I downloaded.&nbsp;</div>
                                    <div>A lot of white spaces, and the
                                      figures are not well integrated
                                      with the text. This make the
                                      visual experience hard on the
                                      reader.</div>
                                    <div>Also, at the end of last page,
                                      the last icon appears truncated.</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>Cheers,</div>
                                    <div>&nbsp;-pepi</div>
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                                  <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                    <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec
                                      13, 2017 at 10:59 AM, Deborah
                                      Baines <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:dbaines@sciops.esa.int" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">dbaines@sciops.esa.int</a>&gt;</span>
                                      wrote:<br>
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                                        solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear
                                        IVOA Exec and Media group,<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Please find attached the edited
                                        version for the next IVOA
                                        Newsletter, number 18, and a pdf
                                        version here:<br>
                                        <br>
                                        <a href="http://vospace.esac.esa.int/vospace/sh/152037173a861969293b7ba95a80b96b6ab5461c?dl=1" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://vospace.esac.esa.int/vo<wbr>space/sh/152037173a861969293b7<wbr>ba95a80b96b6ab5461c?dl=1</a><br>
                                        <br>
                                        Let me know of any corrections
                                        or if you are happy with the
                                        current version (and I'll then
                                        contact the document
                                        coordinators).<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Many thanks and kind regards,<br>
                                        Debbie<br>
                                        <br>
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