<div dir="ltr">In the long term, it seems to be that the easier path would be to change the format, to avoid too many restrictions on contributors.<div>Cheers,</div><div> -pepi</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Deborah Baines <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:dbaines@sciops.esa.int" target="_blank">dbaines@sciops.esa.int</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <div class="m_-4642515803473471479moz-cite-prefix">Hi Pepi,<br>
      <br>
      Looking at the previous newsletters (or at least number 10
      onwards) I see that the articles are becoming longer as a function
      of time! My suggests are the following: either the format is
      changed as you suggest, and the text is wrapped around the
      figures, or we stick with the format and cut down the length of
      the articles and/or edit &amp; add more images so they are
      approximately the same height as the article.<br>
      <br>
      Many thanks,<br>
      Debbie<div><div class="h5"><br>
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      On 14/12/17 17:13, Fabbiano, Giuseppina wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Hi Debbie,
        <div>Yes, I was talking about the white space below the figures.
          It struck me that it may look better to have the text wrap
          around the figures, or at least a 2-column format, to avoid
          these white spaces. Or enlarge the figures.</div>
        <div>I welcome comments from others on this suggestion.</div>
        <div><br>
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        <div>Thanks,</div>
        <div> -pepi</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 10:57 AM,
          Deborah Baines <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:dbaines@sciops.esa.int" target="_blank">dbaines@sciops.esa.int</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
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              <div class="m_-4642515803473471479m_1177322011467427981moz-cite-prefix">Dear
                Pepi,<br>
                <br>
                I&#39;m not sure exactly what you mean by a lot of white
                spaces, are you seeing many white spaces in the &#39;image&#39;
                region, next to the article, or between one article and
                the next? The format is identical to the format in
                previous newsletters. If you are opening the html in a
                browser, it might be displaying differently to how I see
                it (I&#39;m opening it in Firefox v52 in Linux). Attached
                are some screen shots of how I see the newsletter (and
                how I hope it should appear in the final <a href="http://ivoa.net" target="_blank">ivoa.net</a> web page). If
                there are many white spaces it might be because the
                articles are too long and need to be cut down, or we
                should add some more images, for example group photo at
                the interop, another screen shot for the Aladin article,
                AAO article, and I canl crop the ASTERICS workshop image
                so it&#39;s taller? <br>
                <br>
                Many thanks,<br>
                Debbie
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                    On 13/12/17 17:20, Fabbiano, Giuseppina wrote:<br>
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                    <div dir="ltr">Thank you, Debbie.
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                      <div>There are some oddities in formatting, at
                        least in the version I downloaded. </div>
                      <div>A lot of white spaces, and the figures are
                        not well integrated with the text. This make the
                        visual experience hard on the reader.</div>
                      <div>Also, at the end of last page, the last icon
                        appears truncated.</div>
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                      <div>Cheers,</div>
                      <div> -pepi</div>
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at
                        10:59 AM, Deborah Baines <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:dbaines@sciops.esa.int" target="_blank">dbaines@sciops.esa.int</a>&gt;</span>
                        wrote:<br>
                        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear IVOA Exec and
                          Media group,<br>
                          <br>
                          Please find attached the edited version for
                          the next IVOA Newsletter, number 18, and a pdf
                          version here:<br>
                          <br>
                          <a href="http://vospace.esac.esa.int/vospace/sh/152037173a861969293b7ba95a80b96b6ab5461c?dl=1" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://vospace.esac.esa.int/vo<wbr>space/sh/152037173a861969293b7<wbr>ba95a80b96b6ab5461c?dl=1</a><br>
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                          Let me know of any corrections or if you are
                          happy with the current version (and I&#39;ll then
                          contact the document coordinators).<br>
                          <br>
                          Many thanks and kind regards,<br>
                          Debbie<br>
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