VOResource 1.1 RFC

Sarah Weissman sweissman at stsci.edu
Wed Jun 7 17:27:46 CEST 2017


Hi Arnold,

I am not at LISA. Do you have a digital version of your poster that you can share?

-Sarah

From: Arnold Rots <arots at cfa.harvard.edu>
Date: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 at 11:25 AM
To: Sarah Weissman <sweissman at stsci.edu>
Cc: "interop at ivoa.net" <interop at ivoa.net>, Markus Demleitner <msdemlei at ari.uni-heidelberg.de>
Subject: Re: VOResource 1.1 RFC

Sarah,

Would the scheme that I outline in my poster here at LISA VIII resolve the problem?

  - Arnold

On Jun 7, 2017 4:56 PM, "Sarah Weissman" <sweissman at stsci.edu<mailto:sweissman at stsci.edu>> wrote:
Hi Markus, all,

I went to the wiki to leave comments. but the registration page says “Registration has been disabled” so it looks like I can’t create an account. Please let me know if registration is enabled again and I can add the comments below there. My name is Sarah Weissman and I am a software engineer who works with Theresa Dower on the registry at STScI.

My comment is about the connections between DataCite and the new VOResource schema. Is the goal that one should be possible to map between the two standards? One limitation that I have noticed with DataCite and compatibility with astronomy data resources is with the relatedIdentifiers type. In DataCite, a relatedIdentifier must have a relatedIdentifierType associated with it, which come from a fixed list. In VOResource there is the vr:relationship type, which has a relatedResource element that appears to always be a vr:ResourceName, which as I understand it is always an IVOA identifier URI. This represents an incompatibility with DataCite in two ways. One, an IVOA identifier URI is not one of the types in the relatedIdentifierType enumeration in DataCite. Two, DataCite allows a wider range of types of identifiers that may be related to the current described resource. Has there been any thought of trying to get astronomy-specific identifier types into the allowed list for DataCite or of expanding the types of identifiers that can be specified as a relatedResource for the vr:relationship type in the VOResource schema?

We have run into this issue with DataCite with our new DOI service at MAST, where we would like to put CAOM observation IDs into the relatedIdentifiers list, and there is not an obvious way to do this, but I imagine this could be an issue for anyone who is trying to translate between any type of astronomy resource metadata and DataCite.

Thanks,
Sarah


From: <interop-bounces at ivoa.net<mailto:interop-bounces at ivoa.net>> on behalf of Markus Demleitner <msdemlei at ari.uni-heidelberg.de<mailto:msdemlei at ari.uni-heidelberg.de>>
Date: Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 10:24 AM
To: "interop at ivoa.net<mailto:interop at ivoa.net>" <interop at ivoa.net<mailto:interop at ivoa.net>>
Subject: VOResource 1.1 RFC

Dear IVOA community,

After VOResource 1.1 went to Proposed Recommendation in April, I am
happy to formally open the RFC for it.

Please review the text and comment on
http://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/VOResource11RFC

In particular operators of publishing registries and authors of
advanced registry records are cordially invited to read the document
and ideally already provide implementation feedback; VOResource 1.1
features can already be used, including for discovery with searchable
registries implementing an (early) draft of RegTAP 1.1.

The RFC period ends on July 15th; it would be wonderful if reviews
could be in by then.

Thanks,

        Markus Demleitner

(doubling here as Registry Chair and VOResource 1.1 Editor)

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