VO or VObs

[Andrew Lawrence]

that reminds me - basically Ray had the correct answer - it doesn't
matter as long as you define it upfront ..

*-----Original Message-----
*From: Tony Linde [mailto:ael at star.le.ac.uk] 
*Sent: 08 June 2004 16:16
*To: interop at ivoa.net
*Subject: RE: VO or VObs
*
*
*Looking into the grid world, the concept of a VO seems to come 
*alongside
*what AstroGrid terms 'groups' (eg see
*http://web.datagrid.cnr.it/LearnMore/QuickStart/step2.html). 
*
*The VObs would therefore need to encompass the concept of 
*multiple VOs (as I
*guessed below). Certainly, as we develop the idea of VOSpace (MySpace +
*MyDb) it'll need to encompass grid concepts of security and might get
*confusing if we're using two different meanings of VO in the 
*same document.
*
*So I think I'll stick to using the term VO for virtual 
*organisations and
*VObs for the virtual observatory. But for any document which 
**only* talks
*about the virtual observatory, there should be no problem with using VO
*after its first definition.
*
*Cheers,
*Tony. 
*
*> -----Original Message-----
*> From: owner-interop at eso.org [mailto:owner-interop at eso.org] On 
*> Behalf Of Tony Linde
*> Sent: 07 June 2004 20:54
*> To: 'Maria A. Nieto-Santisteban'; 'Guy Rixon'
*> Cc: 'Wil O'Mullane'; interop at ivoa.net
*> Subject: RE: VO or VObs
*> 
*> I don't think it matters too much. As with Guy, I use VObs in 
*> case stuff I write gets read outside of this community and VO 
*> when I want to refer to a Virtual Organisation specifically. 
*> 
*> > You don't have to give any explanation, we are actually 
*lucky since 
*> > our our Virtual Organization is called Virtual Observatory.
*> 
*> I'm not sure they're exactly equivalent. The VObs encompasses 
*> everything in the world of astronomy (or will do) which is 
*> probably more than what is meant by the concept of a VO.
*> 
*> Cheers,
*> Tony. 
*> 
*> > -----Original Message-----
*> > From: owner-interop at eso.org [mailto:owner-interop at eso.org] 
*> On Behalf 
*> > Of Maria A. Nieto-Santisteban
*> > Sent: 07 June 2004 20:26
*> > To: Guy Rixon
*> > Cc: Wil O'Mullane; interop at ivoa.net
*> > Subject: Re: VO or VObs
*> > 
*> > In my modest opinion ....
*> > 
*> > On Mon, 7
*> > Jun 2004, Guy Rixon wrote:
*> > 
*> > > I started using VObs instead of VO because much of what I
*> > write goes
*> > > eventually to grid audiences. They think VO means Virtual 
*> > > Organization. I got bored with having to explain the terms.
*> > 
*> > You don't have to give any explanation, we are actually 
*lucky since 
*> > our our Virtual Organization is called Virtual Observatory.
*> > 
*> > > Inside IVOA, I don't care whether we use VO or VObs.
*> > 
*> > Now that everything is called VOServices, VOTable, VOList, 
*VOSpace, 
*> > VOApplications, IVOA, etc., changing the name to Vobs will 
*> bring only 
*> > unnecessary confusion.
*> > 
*> > Maria
*> > 
*> > > Vobs makes better wiki-words than VO, mind.
*> > > 
*> > > Cheers,
*> > > Guy
*> > > 
*> > > On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, Wil O'Mullane wrote:
*> > > 
*> > > > I see the use of VO for Virtual Observatory (I use it 
*> myself) but 
*> > > > also I notice (particulalry our AstroGrid colleques) use
*> > VObs for
*> > > > Virtual observatory
*> > > >
*> > > > Do we have one we should use in our IVOA documents ? In
*> > particular I
*> > > > wish to do the next draft of VOSupportInterfaces but
*> > should that be
*> > > > VObsSupportInterfaces as Guy names it ?
*> > > >
*> > > > wil
*> > > >
*> > > 
*> > > Guy Rixon 				        
*> gtr at ast.cam.ac.uk
*> > > Institute of Astronomy   	                Tel: 
*+44-1223-337542
*> > > Madingley Road, Cambridge, UK, CB3 0HA		Fax: 
*> > +44-1223-337523
*> > > 
*> > 
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*> > 
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