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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 11/06/2025 à 16:38, BONNAREL
FRANCOIS gmail a écrit :<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dear Mark, dear all<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 11/06/2025 à 16:27,
CresitelloDittmar, Mark via heig a écrit :<br>
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<div>A quick counterpoint here.</div>
<div>The purpose of the ObsCore plenary was to bring this from
a set of interest group projects, to the working group level
for pushing through to standards. I don't think that
cutting the working groups out of the discussion is a good
move.. but the topics should be directed to the appropriate
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<div>I certainly would like the DM group to be included in
discussions about how we the DM content is going to move
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<div>My understanding about how this might play out is:</div>
<div> * ObsCore v1.2 to contain</div>
<div> * the 'common' properties identified across the
domain-specific notes.</div>
<div> - some discussion may need to occur for
proposed changes to core properties which are non-trivial</div>
<div> * relatively generic descriptions of the
properties, and in some manner, referencing the extension
documents for detailed descriptions of the properties in the
context of that domain.</div>
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<p>This has been proposed in one of the splinter before interop at
least, yes. But achieving that may delay 1.2 a lot. Hence my
slightly different view to</p>
<p>have the minimal consensus ASAP</p>
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<div> * MAY include the DAL / Registry components.. which
apply to all extensions of ObsCore.</div>
<div> - I do think there is a cross group discussion
still to take place regarding these interface standards
containing content on different aspects of the workflow (
DM + DAL )</div>
<div> * Extension Documents</div>
<div> * is a bit of a TBD... in my opinion, we'd want the
extended property set to be normative for the domain
extension.. which implies a REC</div>
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OK<br>
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<div> * I'm seeing this as probably a DM REC for each
of the domain-specific extensions? or one for all ObsCore
Domain Extensions, with a section for each domain?</div>
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Due to the different levels of achievment of the various
extensions, I dont' think a global document is appropriate.<br>
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<div> * I don't think this document includes the DAL /
Registry / Semantics content of the current notes.. which
should be resolved in similar discussions with the
appropriate working groups to decide how that content is
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<p>OK. But at least the implementation of DAL and Registry aspects
(organzation in tables, service delivering the tables discovery)
has to be described.</p>
<p>ObsCore 1.1 had this if I'm not mistaking</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>François<br>
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5:32 AM Markus Demleitner via dal <<a
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Whoa, that's a wide distribution right there. May I
suggest to<br>
have discussions on the immediate future on radioig@ and
heig@, and<br>
the wider future on dm@?<br>
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