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<p>Hi , all , </p>
<p>Sorry for the late answer . <br>
We had a long week end Holiday in France .</p>
<p>Thanks for the slides . <br>
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<p>I think we should clarify what we consider as 'advanced data
products' , in various projects . </p>
<p>We add considered data levels together with the CTA project,
where a sense of 'advanced' might be different. <br>
</p>
<p>I agree the benefit of explaining search scenarios from the user
point of view will help to clarify <br>
how the various data products are bound together, and what is the
most useful way to organise the links beetween them in an ObsCore
point of view.</p>
<p>further steps :<br>
I think the datalink proposal made by François and col. can serve
as a test-bed to develop the 'response' vocabulary and stabilize
it. <br>
</p>
<p>vocabulary development : </p>
<p>I am reluctant to open a new branch of terms in the
dataproduct-type vocabulary of Obscore : <br>
</p>
<p>Currently this vocabulary organizes the various terms from the
way axes are resolved in the data products.<br>
The vocabulary 'response' tree uses new categories, oriented
towards the nature of calibration steps in data observation and
reduction . </p>
<p>Is it a new branch of the same vocabulary ? <br>
</p>
<p>Is it a calibration vocabulary ? <br>
</p>
<p>See you soon on-line, <br>
Cheers, Mireille<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 28/05/2025 à 19:39, Janet Evans via
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<div>Dear HEIG,</div>
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<div>After last Wednesday’s HEIG meeting Ian drafted a set of
slides that answered the questions the DM group asked as input
to the Obscore Session at the Interop. </div>
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<div>There has been *no feedback* on the slides. Below I include
them again and ask for your review & feedback. Friday
morning (EDT) I’ll pass them onto Mark CD as our IG input to the
session … so there is one more day for review/comment.</div>
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<div>Thank you,</div>
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response to the questions raised by Mark, I have put
together a draft set of slides for his introductory
presentation. Please consider these a starting point for
further iteration. I’m happy to take and incorporate
feedback either in the form of comments or direct
revisions. These are nominally due today (!) but given
Monday is a holiday in the US, I think Mark will be OK if
we send him slides on Tuesday.</div>
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are working on the details of the ObsCore
extension session at the upcoming Interop. <span
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plan is to push as much information as possible
to the various Working Groups prior to the
Interop, and use this session to gather their
response to the proposals and discuss any open
questions about the content or process moving
forward. </div>
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help keep the focus on the roadmap for
standardizing the extensions, I would like to
provide a summary of the various extension
projects in an introductory presentation, rather
than have individual presentations on the
Notes. <span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>For
this, I’d like to ask each Interest Group to
provide:</div>
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A slide or 2 summary of</div>
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the status of your Note</div>
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the status of any implementations (implemented
or planned)</div>
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A statement on the following questions:</div>
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<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>1.
What are the features about your domain which
require an extension to ObsCore to facilitate
discovery of your data?</div>
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<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>2.
Are there open questions which still need to be
resolved with your group on your Note?</div>
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<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>3.
Are there particular questions which you feel
need discussion at this session?<span
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<span
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could be about content that you feel needs
careful consideration by the community, or about
the evolution of the documentation during the
standardisation process, or whatever.</div>
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<div>If possible, please provide this information by
the end of this week ( 5/23/2025 ) so we have time
to turn it around for the interop presentation.
Sorry for the late request, things are coming
together quickly and I'm looking forward to a
productive session.</div>
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<div>Mark & Mathieu.</div>
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