[Heig] Post running meeting thoughts
BONNAREL FRANCOIS gmail
francois.bonnarel at gmail.com
Tue Jan 27 15:52:30 CET 2026
Dear all,
After the meeting last week, I was still thinking about what the Chandra
prototype could look like
For the Paris HESS prototype, I get the idea since a couple of years now.
Trying to understand what the CSC data products could be I came back to
Ian's Malta interop presentation.
I copy/paste here one of the slides where some of these products are
described.
Before trying to define dataproduct_type vocabulary terms for those
products I am wondering if we really need to expose all this data
directly in
an ObsTAP service.
For example background images, psf, pixel mask, bad pixel regions, ARF
belong to the "response functions" category if I'm not mistaking.
They probably are attached to a photon event list or an image or ....
Including all this in the main ObsCore table will overload it very
heterogeneously. Some of these response functions will be similar to
what we get in other domains (psf) some will be very different and
specific to Xray.
I understood that the spatial, spectral, time characterization of these
specific products could be borrowed from the observation they are
associated with. It's ok but is that useful ?
For accessing these response functions I can imagine 4 solutions which
all will have the advantage to let the OBsTAp service be focused on
measurements obtained from the sky at whatever calib level.
1 ) the photon event list and response functions are gathered
together in the same tar or archive file (or MEF) which is typed as an
event-bundle. Direct access to this bundle from Obstap access_url is
then easy. It's the client task to figure out what to do with the
content of the bundle.
2 ) the various response material is kept as a set of individual
products. All are associated to an event list or an image or a spectrum.
In that case ObsTAP point to a datalink response which lists all these
different products. The semantics FIELD writes calibration or response
function. Content_qalifier FIELD writes the very nature of the product.
3 ) the DataLink reponse content may be organized as a TAP table.
It's then possible to query at the same time the ObsTAP table and the
DataLink-like table by a join on ObsCore/obs_publisher_did-DataLink/ID
4 ) if we need a more detailed description of the response products
to help discover and select them we could imagine creating a specific
"response product" table following a specific datamodel as proposed by
Mireille in her Gorlitz presentation. This will allow to attach specific
eg :
- time range to a psf or
- specific release date and description to an arf or a bad pixel map
-....
Natural join on obs_publisher_did in both tables will allow to
query those table at the same time with selection criteria from both.
Cheers
François
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