<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 30 Oct 2025, at 18:16, CresitelloDittmar, Mark via dm <dm@ivoa.net> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset="UTF-8"><ul style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; list-style-type: disc;"><li style="margin: 0px; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-feature-settings: normal;">PD: Question</li><ul style="list-style-type: disc;"><li style="margin: 0px; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-feature-settings: normal;"><span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-feature-settings: normal;"></span>serialization of model (in XSD), this was part of the spec itself.</li><li style="margin: 0px; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-feature-settings: normal;"><span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-feature-settings: normal;"></span>have XSD, and json serialization (not schema)…<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></li><li style="margin: 0px; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-feature-settings: normal;"><span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-feature-settings: normal;"></span>ML: Mango does not have a schema.. serialization is expected to be via Annotation syntax.</li><li style="margin: 0px; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-feature-settings: normal;"><span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-feature-settings: normal;"></span>TD: should be brought up in the TCG.</li><ul style="list-style-type: disc;"><li style="margin: 0px; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-feature-settings: normal;"><span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-feature-settings: normal;"></span>with multiple formats.. have to be all the more careful and they NEED to be in sync.</li></ul><li style="margin: 0px; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-feature-settings: normal;"><span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-feature-settings: normal;"></span>Q: is there a place in<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://ivoa.net__;!!PDiH4ENfjr2_Jw!CVbq1CuuBXdmWhTlqQYtsn5z1MvFpsvGaY_scerYquYLrliWpisr6PXB-do_TLi12x1X1C7cWn1FGb-VTg$">ivoa.net [ivoa.net]</a>. for the json schema.?</li></ul></ul><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></blockquote></div><br><div>I have been trying to point out that the vo-dml tools do produce xml, json and TAP schema from the VO-DML definition -</div><div><br></div><div>see <a href="https://ivoa.github.io/vo-dml/Transformers/#schema">https://ivoa.github.io/vo-dml/Transformers/#schema</a></div><div><br></div><div>Although VO-DML 1.0 does not say that these are mandatory (there are just some “hints” of how to do it in an appendix), - we could say in VO-DML 1.1 <a href="https://github.com/ivoa/vo-dml/pull/80">https://github.com/ivoa/vo-dml/pull/80</a> that the schema produced by the tools are the “standard” schema that are associated with the model.</div><div><br></div><div>Paul.</div></body></html>