<div dir="ltr"><div>Dear DM,</div><div>   Below are notes from our recent running meeting.</div><div>   Thanks to everyone for their participation!</div><div>Mark & Mathieu</div><div><div><br></div><div>Reminder: We have <a href="https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/IvoaDMRunningMeetings" target="_blank">a Twiki Page </a> to coordinate the Running Meeting information, agenda, and notes.</div><div>(I'll add a link to these notes on that table when they appear in the email archive.)</div></div><div><br></div><div><b>Action Summary:</b></div><div><ul><li style="margin-left:15px"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">PH - deliver summary of update candidates to DM mail list, (can reference git issues).  Please organize by the threads they support.</span><br></li><li style="margin-left:15px"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">PH - set timetable for steps moving forward, and send to MCD/MS for the roadmap.</span><br></li><li style="margin-left:15px"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">MCD - organize a focus meeting (virtual) to discuss CAOM integration for early February.</span></li><li style="margin-left:15px"><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">MCD - submit remaining issues from MANGO review, and summarize to DM mail list</span></li><li style="margin-left:15px"><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">MS - <span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">schedule </span>ObsCore/Extension </span> cross-group coordination meeting. <br>    I don't have an assignee or timeframe written down for this.  I also note that HEIG is scheduling a focus meeting among themselves to discuss the HEIG perspective on this topic.  I suggest MS take an informal poll of the relevant parties to determine when this meeting should take place</li><li style="margin-left:15px"><font face="Helvetica Neue"><u>carry-over actions</u></font></li><ul><li style="margin-left:15px"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">MCD: bring the 'Shape' discussion to the</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">DM</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">mail list,<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>with a goal<span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>to gain consensus on where this model element should live in the</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">DM</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">ecosystem</span></li><li style="margin-left:15px"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">??: bring vo-dml 'version' attribute to</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">DM</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">mail list for discussion.. at least to form a plan IF the attribute is, in fact, needed for upcoming vo-dml standard updates.</span></li></ul></ul></div><div><br></div><div><b>Attendees:</b></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><div>Mark CD, Mathieu Servillat, Pat Dowler, Ian Evans, Janet Evans, Paul Harrison, Mark Kettenis, Bruno Khelifi, Mireille Louys, Marco Molinaro</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><b>Agenda/Notes:</b></div><div><ul><li style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><span style="font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"></span>Review open actions from previous meeting</li><ul style="list-style-type:disc"><li style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><span style="font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"></span>see:<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://mail.ivoa.net/pipermail/dm/2024-October/006517.html" target="_blank">http://mail.ivoa.net/pipermail/dm/2024-October/006517.html</a></li></ul></ul></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><div><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><b>NOTES:</b></span></div><div><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><b>We didn't review these, but I've consolidated the list in the Action Summary above</b></span></div></blockquote></blockquote><div><ul><li style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><span style="font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"></span>VO-DML 1.1: <span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://github.com/ivoa/vo-dml" target="_blank">https://github.com/ivoa/vo-dml</a></li><ul style="list-style-type:disc"><li style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><span style="font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"></span>discuss candidate items presented in Malta</li><ul style="list-style-type:disc"></ul><li style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><span style="font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"></span>next steps.. for 2024B roadmap </li></ul></ul></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><div><font face="Helvetica Neue"><b>NOTES:</b></font></div></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><div><font face="Helvetica Neue"><b>Git Milestone List for v1.1:  </b></font><a href="https://github.com/ivoa/vo-dml/milestone/1">https://github.com/ivoa/vo-dml/milestone/1</a></div></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><div><font face="Helvetica Neue"><b>Discussed candidate list, and the importance of associating the items with the use case / usage thread they support.</b></font></div></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><div><font face="Helvetica Neue"><b>PH: notes they are primarily for code generation and database representation threads.</b></font></div></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><font face="Helvetica Neue"><b>       The elements are itemized in Git,  and implemented in the toolkit, but there is no updated VO-DML standard document.</b></font></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><div><b><font face="arial, sans-serif">MCD: Question, are any of these in support of CAOM?</font></b></div></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><div><b><font face="arial, sans-serif">reply ~= maybe.. there are some items which could be useful, but none specifically needed by CAOM</font></b></div></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><b><font face="arial, sans-serif">ML: Question, about markdown handling of relations<br></font></b></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><b><font face="arial, sans-serif">reply - using pandoc </font></b></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><div><b style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">MCD: Question, did the list go to the WG list? It's important to get broad visibility to them before moving forward.</b></div></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><div><b style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">reply - no</b></div></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><font face="Helvetica Neue"><b>ACTION: PH - deliver summary of update candidates to DM mail list, (can reference git issues).  Please organize by the threads they support.<br>ACTION: PH - set timetable for steps moving forward, and send to MCD/MS for the roadmap.<br></b></font></blockquote></blockquote><div><ul><li style="margin-left:15px"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">MANGO 1.0</span><br></li><ul style="list-style-type:disc"><li style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal">next steps..</li></ul></ul></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><div><b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">NOTES:</span></b></div><div><b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">WD announced to DM list</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> <span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">20241022</span></b></div></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><div><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><b>  - no comments to mailing list</b></span></div><div><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><b>  - currently 10 open issues on Git repo: </b></span><a href="https://github.com/ivoa-std/MANGO/issues">https://github.com/ivoa-std/MANGO/issues</a></div><div><b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">     - </span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">2 are mine:</span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span></b></div><div><b>          - Property1D<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">/2D = resolved</span></b></div><div><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><b>          - Relation of Mango Errors and Meas Uncertainty = being discussed</b></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><b>  - I have other issues to submit</b></span></div></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><div><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><b>  ACTION: MCD - submit remaining issues, and summarize to DM mail list</b></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><b><br></b></span></div></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><div><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><b>Discussion on next steps, and the integration of Measurement extended items to the Measurements model</b></span></div></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><div><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><b>  - bringing multiple models to the TCG for review is unconventional, but the proper way of handling them since any given usage thread may impact multiple data models.</b></span></div></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><div><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><b>JE: Makes sense to do it now, rather than having a larger impact moving that content out</b></span></div></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><div><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><b>MM: General support for MCD point-of-view, but needs further consideration</b></span></div></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><div><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><b>LM: will provide a suggestion regarding the Measurements extensions </b></span></div></blockquote></blockquote><div><ul><ul style="list-style-type:disc"><li style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><span style="font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"></span></li></ul><li style="margin-left:15px"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">CAOM Integration</span></li><ul style="list-style-type:disc"><li style="margin-left:15px"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">document state: had lots of editorial work to do at last report</span></li><li style="margin-left:15px"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">focus meeting on integration plan --- who/when/where?</span></li></ul></ul></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><div><div><font face="Helvetica Neue"><b>NOTES:</b></font></div><div><font face="Helvetica Neue"><b>PD: Gave overview of document state, expects to have edits done by end of February</b></font></div></div></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><div><font face="Helvetica Neue"><b>       Adrian is working a python implementation</b></font></div></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><div><font face="Helvetica Neue"><b>       Some issues have been submitted to Git, these need to be looked at. ( </b></font><a href="https://github.com/opencadc/CAOM">https://github.com/opencadc/CAOM</a> )</div></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><div><font face="Helvetica Neue"><b>       Regarding VODML:  not sure if there are update candidates that would be particularly important, but will take a look by the end of February.  Also notes that VO-DML produces warnings for bad practice about common occurrences, could use discussion.</b></font></div></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><div><font face="Helvetica Neue"><b>MCD: thoughts on a focus meeting?</b></font></div></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><div><font face="Helvetica Neue"><b>PD:  Brian is organizing a workshop on CAOM implementation, targeted for March.  This is somewhat orthogonal to that</b></font></div></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><div><font face="Helvetica Neue"><b>        General agreement that a virtual meeting in early February would be good.. </b></font></div></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><div><font face="Helvetica Neue"><b>ACTION: MCD - coordinate this virtual meeting</b></font></div></blockquote></blockquote><div><ul><li style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><span style="font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"></span>ObsCore/RadioExtension reconciliation</li><ul style="list-style-type:disc"><li style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><span style="font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"></span>The DM group should be driving this, using/coordinating input from the interest groups (radio, time domain, high energy)</li><li style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><span style="font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"></span>Recent emails..</li><ul style="list-style-type:disc"><li style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><span style="font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"></span>Pat recommending larger migration of concepts from radio extension into core model</li><li style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><span style="font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"></span>Malta discussion - client impact of going forward and refactoring as we go along.</li><ul style="list-style-type:disc"><li style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><span style="font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"></span>how to discover services that include <domain> extension content</li></ul></ul><li style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><span style="font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"></span>HEIG - will develop its roadmap with focus on their ObsCore extension</li><ul style="list-style-type:disc"><li style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><span style="font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"></span>possible meeting in April (Paris)</li></ul><li style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><span style="font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"></span>next steps..</li></ul></ul></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><div><font face="Helvetica Neue"><b>NOTES:</b></font></div><div><b>Extension docs on github:</b><br>    -<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://github.com/ivoa-std/ObscoreTimeExtension" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/ivoa-std/ObscoreTimeExtension</a><br>    -<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://github.com/ivoa-std/ObsCoreExtensionForRadioData" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/ivoa-std/ObsCoreExtensionForRadioData</a><font face="Helvetica Neue"><b><br></b></font></div></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><div><font face="Helvetica Neue"><b>MK: expressed concern that the migration of radio extension content to ObsCore would be a significant delay to the standard.</b></font></div></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><div><font face="Helvetica Neue"><b>MCD: asked how much of the extension content is being recommended to move into Core?</b></font></div></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><div><b>reply - about half.</b></div></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><b>PD: notes that with the CAOM update for these; he got feedback from others/users that they would use them in their (non-radio) context.<br>       also notes some concern about moving too much into Core, and making it too sparse.<br>ML: speaking for Time Domain extension.. theirs is a small table, could be shifted to Core<br>Suggestion of a cross-group coordination meeting to work through the details and make a firm plan for moving forward<br>BK:  supports the idea, coordination is quite important<br>MK: the discoverability aspect of the 'extension' topic is hard from an Interest Group perspective, can provide requirements, but maybe the coordination meeting can/should focus on the models.<br><br>ACTION: schedule coordination meeting.<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>    I don't have an assignee or timeframe written down for this.  I also note that HEIG is scheduling a focus meeting among themselves to discuss the HEIG perspective on this topic.  I suggest MS take an informal poll of the relevant parties to determine when this meeting should take place.</b></blockquote></blockquote><div><ul><ul style="list-style-type:disc"></ul><li style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><span style="font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"></span>AOB</li><ul style="list-style-type:disc"><li style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><span style="font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"></span>Cube - HEIG contribution opportunity</li></ul></ul><ul><li style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><span style="font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"></span>Schedule next meetings:</li><ul style="list-style-type:disc"><li style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"><b><span style="font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal"></span>Feb 18: 3PM UTC</b></li></ul></ul></div></div>