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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Laurent<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I will use the issues, sorry for forgetting about that.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> Models imported by MANGO are listed in MANGO-VODML, this is why the mapping does not detail that list.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">It was the mango model itself that I did not see in the mapped VOTable. But I will add these to the issues as well.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Gerard <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Laurent Michel <laurent.michel@astro.unistra.fr>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 22, 2021 11:23<br>
<b>To:</b> Gerard Lemson <glemson1@jhu.edu><br>
<b>Cc:</b> dm@ivoa.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: DM workshop follow-up and status #2<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Gerard,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you for your comments. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If you have others comments, please, put them on the dm-usecases issues.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You are right, most of the Mango proposals haven’t been updated to the curent model version (the last one):<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- Mapping of current MANGO version that removed the reduction status field<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- Mapping block head (MODEL-INSTANCE) with both model names and urls.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’ve just complete a PR.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">MANGO will remain frozen until the data challenge is complete, so you can use the last version.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This shouldn’t prevent you to raise issues on the MANGO project.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Models imported by MANGO are listed in MANGO-VODML, this is why the mapping does not detail that list.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Laurent<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 21 Mar 2021, at 15:07, Gerard Lemson <<a href="mailto:glemson1@jhu.edu">glemson1@jhu.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Laurent<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">><span class="apple-converted-space"><b> </b></span><b>From:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Laurent Michel<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:laurent.michel@astro.unistra.fr">laurent.michel@astro.unistra.fr</a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
><b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Sunday, March 21, 2021 5:19<br>
><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Gerard Lemson<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:glemson1@jhu.edu">glemson1@jhu.edu</a><br>
><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: DM workshop follow-up and status #2<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> Gerard, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> The repo is here: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fivoa-std%2FMANGO&data=04%7C01%7Cglemson1%40jhu.edu%7C8668bbcac337494662fb08d8ed466e30%7C9fa4f438b1e6473b803f86f8aedf0dec%7C0%7C0%7C637520234050334045%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=GV7AYAuCf4OYCpwOyLnNKfGCzfRgXLHe9w8aMUr6qwA%3D&reserved=0">https://github.com/ivoa-std/MANGO</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> …<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> Notice the the model might change a little bit after the recent reviews (MCD, FB, ML) See the issue pages<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yes, in that repo for that is where I had found the particular commit I asked about:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Indeed to keep things constant I want to use a particular (raw) commit for the model rather than relying on<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fivoa-std%2FMANGO%2Fblob%2Fmaster%2Fvo-dml%2Fmango.vo-dml.xml&data=04%7C01%7Cglemson1%40jhu.edu%7C8668bbcac337494662fb08d8ed466e30%7C9fa4f438b1e6473b803f86f8aedf0dec%7C0%7C0%7C637520234050354033%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=UJ%2F9lN0fWwHMBDCyyLkY4IBMp6Ic3vlqqVTYiHr9t5I%3D&reserved=0">https://github.com/ivoa-std/MANGO/blob/master/vo-dml/mango.vo-dml.xml</a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>.
So I guess I will use the one I wrote in my email. Note that I would also prefer to use a permanent version because if the model linked to by a particular mapping changes, the mapping may no longer be valid.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">But I also was curious which one you used for example in<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">And in that mapping I see clauses like<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">At<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fivoa%2Fdm-usecases%2Fblob%2Fcd3760e345be139e645393c1159dd32e80001ab8%2Fusecases%2Fcombined_data%2Fmango_proposal%2F4xmm_litewithsp.annot.xml%23L64&data=04%7C01%7Cglemson1%40jhu.edu%7C8668bbcac337494662fb08d8ed466e30%7C9fa4f438b1e6473b803f86f8aedf0dec%7C0%7C0%7C637520234050364031%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=pJx7m9PtfnlCED1EMkcwheLa%2FW5kiZH0BECa1v6Lg3s%3D&reserved=0">https://github.com/ivoa/dm-usecases/blob/cd3760e345be139e645393c1159dd32e80001ab8/usecases/combined_data/mango_proposal/4xmm_litewithsp.annot.xml#L64</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">But in the model you link to I don’t find these roles.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If we want to do comparisons between different mapping prescriptions wouldn’t it be good to all at least use the same version of the same model?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Same if we want to look at the applicability of a model to describe certain votable-s?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers<o:p></o:p></p>
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should that correspond to the version you map to in your examples?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:interop-bounces@ivoa.net">interop-bounces@ivoa.net</a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:interop-bounces@ivoa.net">interop-bounces@ivoa.net</a>><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On
Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Laurent Michel<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, March 19, 2021 13:11<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:dm@ivoa.net">dm@ivoa.net</a>;<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:interop@ivoa.net">interop@ivoa.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>DM workshop follow-up and status #2<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear all,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">3 Weeks after the kick-off meeting, the status of the use-case repository is as follow:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> - All based on Mango <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> - The annotations are based on either VODML-mapping proposal (MCD) or ModelInstanceInVot (LM)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> - Based on either Cube DM (MCD) or on MD’s approach based on a loose use of model components<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> - The annotations are based on either VODML-mapping proposal (MCD) or ModelInstanceInVot (LM)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There are a lot of discussions in the issues and some inputs on the Wiki.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The main topic is to decide wether one must use sparse models element or more integrated models<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We plan to start the synthesis work in April, so<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>interested people are welcome to contribute in any way</b>.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You can participate or follow the discussions on either issues, Wiki or Pull Request threads:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fivoa%2Fdm-usecases&data=04%7C01%7Cglemson1%40jhu.edu%7C8668bbcac337494662fb08d8ed466e30%7C9fa4f438b1e6473b803f86f8aedf0dec%7C0%7C0%7C637520234050374027%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=WyTnAFHl7z%2FPRd9nGkssXKXYu5jXPuStVfH%2BiS2kfA0%3D&reserved=0">https://github.com/ivoa/dm-usecases</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Laurent<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Useful links:<br>
<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fivoa-std%2FMANGO&data=04%7C01%7Cglemson1%40jhu.edu%7C8668bbcac337494662fb08d8ed466e30%7C9fa4f438b1e6473b803f86f8aedf0dec%7C0%7C0%7C637520234050394011%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=2XKmiW5TBijDSkuZ5seUKsvzydFIYk%2BTkVnYQotu88Y%3D&reserved=0">https://github.com/ivoa-std/MANGO</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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