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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks Mark<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I had not looked at your specific annotation. Indeed links like
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#24292E;background:white"><a href="https://www.ivoa.net/xml/Meas/20200908/Meas-v1.0.vo-dml.xml">https://www.ivoa.net/xml/Meas/20200908/Meas-v1.0.vo-dml.xml</a></span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black;background:white">
 should be quite (completely?) permanent.</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;background:white"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black;background:white">But Laurent uses
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<p class="MsoNormal">in <a href="https://github.com/ivoa/dm-usecases/blob/main/usecases/combined_data/mango_proposal/4xmm_litewithsp.annot.xml">
https://github.com/ivoa/dm-usecases/blob/main/usecases/combined_data/mango_proposal/4xmm_litewithsp.annot.xml</a> for example.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So I think it might be good to define a list of VO-DML model links to be used in this exercise.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Gerard<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> CresitelloDittmar, Mark &lt;mdittmar@cfa.harvard.edu&gt;
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<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 21, 2021 11:01<br>
<b>To:</b> Gerard Lemson &lt;glemson1@jhu.edu&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Laurent Michel &lt;laurent.michel@astro.unistra.fr&gt;; dm@ivoa.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: DM workshop follow-up and status #2<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Gerard,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Maybe mis-interpreting this statement, but..<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My annotated files are using the VODML/XML installed in the ivoa repository for the ivoa, coords, meas models.&nbsp; These are up-to-date.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 10:25 AM Gerard Lemson &lt;<a href="mailto:glemson1@jhu.edu">glemson1@jhu.edu</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">PS<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I realize the same desire for referring to permanent versions/releases is also tru for example for the STC models etc, which currently mereloy link to the trunk of the volute SVN
 repo if I am not mistaken.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>From:</b>
<a href="mailto:dm-bounces@ivoa.net" target="_blank">dm-bounces@ivoa.net</a> &lt;<a href="mailto:dm-bounces@ivoa.net" target="_blank">dm-bounces@ivoa.net</a>&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Gerard Lemson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 21, 2021 10:07<br>
<b>To:</b> Laurent Michel &lt;<a href="mailto:laurent.michel@astro.unistra.fr" target="_blank">laurent.michel@astro.unistra.fr</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:dm@ivoa.net" target="_blank">dm@ivoa.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: DM workshop follow-up and status #2<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi Laurent<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">&gt;<b> From:</b> Laurent Michel
<a href="mailto:laurent.michel@astro.unistra.fr" target="_blank">laurent.michel@astro.unistra.fr</a>
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&gt;<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 21, 2021 5:19<br>
&gt; <b>To:</b> Gerard Lemson <a href="mailto:glemson1@jhu.edu" target="_blank">glemson1@jhu.edu</a><br>
&gt; <b>Subject:</b> Re: DM workshop follow-up and status #2<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">&gt; Gerard,&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">&gt; The repo is here:&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;
<a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fivoa-std%2FMANGO&amp;data=04%7C01%7Cglemson1%40jhu.edu%7Cac1a9f70a5b6498e3a0b08d8ec7a3c67%7C9fa4f438b1e6473b803f86f8aedf0dec%7C0%7C0%7C637519357037509400%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=1QRC%2BLT4R7TGsD4hUmsR9icotER64lU2%2FXtnsTNx9Pg%3D&amp;reserved=0" target="_blank">
https://github.com/ivoa-std/MANGO</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">&gt; &#8230;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">&gt; Notice the the model might change a little bit after the recent reviews (MCD, FB, ML) See the issue pages</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Yes, in that repo for that is where I had found the particular commit I asked about:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fraw.githubusercontent.com%2Fivoa-std%2FMANGO%2Fa46441f6fc498a6aeb33ed97e65689fee3d00f6c%2Fvo-dml%2Fmango.vo-dml.xml&amp;data=04%7C01%7Cglemson1%40jhu.edu%7Cac1a9f70a5b6498e3a0b08d8ec7a3c67%7C9fa4f438b1e6473b803f86f8aedf0dec%7C0%7C0%7C637519357037519400%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=rnAMLFIukGsk7GWDgESO%2FCogVhLwPHwrnJRNZMfumvk%3D&amp;reserved=0" target="_blank">https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ivoa-std/MANGO/a46441f6fc498a6aeb33ed97e65689fee3d00f6c/vo-dml/mango.vo-dml.xml</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Indeed to keep things constant I want to use a particular (raw) commit for the model rather than relying on
<a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fivoa-std%2FMANGO%2Fblob%2Fmaster%2Fvo-dml%2Fmango.vo-dml.xml&amp;data=04%7C01%7Cglemson1%40jhu.edu%7Cac1a9f70a5b6498e3a0b08d8ec7a3c67%7C9fa4f438b1e6473b803f86f8aedf0dec%7C0%7C0%7C637519357037519400%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=8hVQOIREA%2BFJT6QEdt3l0BQ5cmd1leotuWk4bH6H6Os%3D&amp;reserved=0" target="_blank">
https://github.com/ivoa-std/MANGO/blob/master/vo-dml/mango.vo-dml.xml</a> . So I guess I will use the one I wrote in my email. Note that I would also prefer to use a permanent version because if the model linked to by a particular mapping changes, the mapping
 may no longer be valid.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">But I also was curious which one you used for example in
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fivoa%2Fdm-usecases%2Fblob%2Fmain%2Fusecases%2Fcombined_data%2Fmango_proposal%2F4xmm_litewithsp.annot.xml&amp;data=04%7C01%7Cglemson1%40jhu.edu%7Cac1a9f70a5b6498e3a0b08d8ec7a3c67%7C9fa4f438b1e6473b803f86f8aedf0dec%7C0%7C0%7C637519357037529393%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=Bl6PcCP0TMr5svygTudjvRN51cL9qFp6pkr4OpTDi5c%3D&amp;reserved=0" target="_blank">https://github.com/ivoa/dm-usecases/blob/main/usecases/combined_data/mango_proposal/4xmm_litewithsp.annot.xml</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">In that mapping you use, but do not declare the mango model.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">And in that mapping I see clauses like
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">&lt;ATTRIBUTE dmrole=&quot;mango:Parameter.reductionStatus&quot; dmtype=&quot;ivoa:string&quot; value=&quot;Corrected&quot; /&gt;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">&lt;INSTANCE dmrole=&quot;mango:Parameter.measure&quot; dmtype=&quot;mango:stcextend.LonLatSkyPosition&quot;&gt;<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">At
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https://github.com/ivoa/dm-usecases/blob/cd3760e345be139e645393c1159dd32e80001ab8/usecases/combined_data/mango_proposal/4xmm_litewithsp.annot.xml#L64</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">But in the model you link to I don&#8217;t find these roles.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Indeed I also don&#8217;t find the type MangoObject used in
<span class="gmail-m3625610150870983281pl-e"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black;background:white">dmtype</span></span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#24292E;background:white">=</span><span class="gmail-m3625610150870983281pl-pds"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black;background:white">&quot;</span></span><span class="gmail-m3625610150870983281pl-s"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black;background:white">mango:MangoObject</span></span><span class="gmail-m3625610150870983281pl-pds"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black;background:white">&quot;
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">If we want to do comparisons between different mapping prescriptions wouldn&#8217;t it be good to all at least use the same version of the same model?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Same if we want to look at the applicability of a model to describe certain votable-s?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Cheers<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On 20 Mar 2021, at 23:37, Gerard Lemson &lt;<a href="mailto:glemson1@jhu.edu" target="_blank">glemson1@jhu.edu</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">What is the location of the Mango model&#8217;s VO-DML you use in your mappings?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">If I use the latest master commit<span class="gmail-m3625610150870983281apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fraw.githubusercontent.com%2Fivoa-std%2FMANGO%2Fa46441f6fc498a6aeb33ed97e65689fee3d00f6c%2Fvo-dml%2Fmango.vo-dml.xml&amp;data=04%7C01%7Cglemson1%40jhu.edu%7Cac1a9f70a5b6498e3a0b08d8ec7a3c67%7C9fa4f438b1e6473b803f86f8aedf0dec%7C0%7C0%7C637519357037549377%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=lv5Cl970jn0BEfOwaJxwXDjtwVwBge4qvYEtwka4YUc%3D&amp;reserved=0" target="_blank">https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ivoa-std/MANGO/a46441f6fc498a6aeb33ed97e65689fee3d00f6c/vo-dml/mango.vo-dml.xml</a><span class="gmail-m3625610150870983281apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>,
 should that correspond to the version you map to in your examples?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>From:</b><span class="gmail-m3625610150870983281apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href="mailto:interop-bounces@ivoa.net" target="_blank">interop-bounces@ivoa.net</a> &lt;<a href="mailto:interop-bounces@ivoa.net" target="_blank">interop-bounces@ivoa.net</a>&gt;<span class="gmail-m3625610150870983281apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b>On
 Behalf Of<span class="gmail-m3625610150870983281apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Laurent Michel<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="gmail-m3625610150870983281apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Friday, March 19, 2021 13:11<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="gmail-m3625610150870983281apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href="mailto:dm@ivoa.net" target="_blank">dm@ivoa.net</a>;
<a href="mailto:interop@ivoa.net" target="_blank">interop@ivoa.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="gmail-m3625610150870983281apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>DM workshop follow-up and status #2<o:p></o:p></p>
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