DM Running Meeting notes - 20250415

[CresitelloDittmar, Mark]

All,

Below are our notes (mostly Mathieu's) from the recent Running meeting.

I'll post them to the Twiki shortly.


Participants:
   Pat Dowler (PD), Laurent Michel (LM), François Bonnarel (FB), Mireille Louys
(ML), Mark CD (MCD), Mathieu Servillat (MS)



ObsCore:

     - Define the request to IGs from DM WG -- what do we need from them?
         - IG to prepare Endorsed Note (EN)
         - Include tables as in the ObsCore REC
         - Propose terminology, descriptions, and corresponding use cases
     - ObsCore v1.1 on Github status
         - https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/ObsCore
         - PD: will try to convert to ivoatex next week
         - The plan is to add sections in ObsCore for e.g. Radio Ext, and
refer to the RadioIG EN for justification and details
             - e.g. a table + 2 pages : can be included in ObsCore
             - the Notes can better address the effort of the interest group
 and capture the domain of knowledge for each extension proposed.
         - Relations with CAOM
             - PD: CAOM 2.5 will integrate Radio Ext
             - Implemented in SRCNet prototype (SKAO)
                 - group with Paul Harrison, using CAOM 2.5

                 - used CADC software for v2.4

         - IVOA Note by Markus to register tables
             - standardID in the TAPSchema as a utype for data discovery

             -
[
https://ivoa.net/documents/Notes/TableReg](https://ivoa.net/documents/Notes/TableReg)
             - rk: updated for typo on github

         - How to handle versions of ObsCore and extensions ?
             - versions may not be the doc version
             - e.g. : Core1.1 Radio1.0 (and doc v1.2...)
         - TCG plenary at next Interop (2-6 June)
             - opportunity to validate Endorsed Notes

         - HEIG workshop on ObsCore Extension (29-30 April)
             - https://indico.obspm.fr/event/2674

- ObsCore includes the ObsTAP stuff… which should be DAL.

  - PD: can shift emphasis from ObsTap… but will need some content
describing the expectation of doing a ’natural join’ of the tables but for
DAP protocol, it would need to describe an equivalent.



Preparation for Interop:

  - Registration - most attending; not many in person

  - RoadMap

        - MANGO: LM waiting for green light on 2 issues.

  - epoch — new issue

  - photometric properties — see new issue.

         - CAOM 2.5 Integration
         - ObsCore/RadioExtension reconciliation
             - Port ObsCore 1.1 document to ivoatex
         - VO-DML 1.1
         - Cube 1.0
         - VOEvent 2.2

  - Call for Abstracts coming

        - Abstract submissions
        - ‘Plenary’ topics


Next Meeting: Tue May 20 @14:00 UTC
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