Meeting twiki page Re: Radio IG running meeting and ObsCore extension for radio data news

[Pierre Le Sidaner]

Hello


It seems to me in the discussion that we're talking about an 
implementation solution before the need.

As Markus specifies, we're going to have multiple extensions to ObsCore: 
radio (and pulsar), provenance, time domain, etc.

Having participated extensively in the development of EPN-TAP, it would 
be useful to clearly describe the requirement in each of the axes 
(temporal, spatial, frequency, gravitational, etc.).

On the best possible implementation of the protocol, two populations 
need to talk to each other

The people who implement the data publication frameworks, and we don't 
actually have so many of these within the VO.

The scientific users who will need to access the data and who are not 
necessarily geeks.

By this I mean that joins are not an obvious thing for all researchers. 
However, there's nothing to stop proposing a series of tables that 
correspond to each need and that for each data model we have a view that 
is extracted from the same group of tables.


Questions of unit (frequency versus wavelength versus energy) are dealt 
with within the view.


Regards
Pierre


On 12/04/2024 10:42, BONNAREL FRANCOIS via dm wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> You can find the dedicated page for this meeting with presentations and 
> Notes here: 
> https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/RadioastronomyInterestGroupSeventhVirtualMeeting
> 
> The general page of the RadioIG with links to github material and all 
> dedicated interop sessions or running meetings is available here :
> 
> https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/IvoaRadio
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Mark and François
> 
> PS : don't hesitate to propose a presentation for our RadioIG session at 
> next interop
> 
> 
> Le 05/04/2024 à 08:10, BONNAREL FRANCOIS via dm a écrit :
>> Dear all,
>>
>> The RadiomIG meeting ils today at noon UTC
>>
>> The zoom link is the following : 
>> https://cnrs.zoom.us/j/93534017451?pwd=T0lVQmpTbHFyTXBYUlZKWmRuQmV6UT09
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> François and Mark
>>
>> Le 08/03/2024 à 11:39, BONNAREL FRANCOIS via dm a écrit :
>>> Dear all,
>>> After discussion with Mireille who is the only missing person on 
>>> Friday the 5th of april, I decided to confirm this date.
>>> So please save the date : 5th of April 12-14 UTC.
>>> Cheers
>>> François
>>> Le 07/03/2024 à 11:24, BONNAREL FRANCOIS a écrit :
>>>> Dear all,
>>>> The poll clearly indicates the 5th of April (Friday) for the 
>>>> meeting, but one of our colleague cannot make it this day and would 
>>>> like to be there absolutely.
>>>> So I added two slots on the 8th and 9th.
>>>> Can you consider to fill the poll for these two new dates ?
>>>> If you have lost the editing list just send me an email.
>>>> Cheers
>>>> François
>>>> Le 04/03/2024 à 18:06, BONNAREL FRANCOIS a écrit :
>>>>> People from DM WG interested are welcome of course because the 
>>>>> extension is ported by this WG eventually.
>>>>> Le 04/03/2024 à 18:05, BONNAREL FRANCOIS via dm a écrit :
>>>>>> Dear Single dish friends and visibility data fans or VLBI gurus,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark Kettenis and I plan to have a running meeting during the 
>>>>>> first week of April
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please choose the date here :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://evento.renater.fr/survey/radio-ig-running-meeting-dm-wg-invited-ya3w9rhc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Should be OK for everybody from Australia to US / Canada East 
>>>>>> coast + South America. (8AM-11PM)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For western US and Canada (Victoria) + Hawaï just tell me if you 
>>>>>> want a dedicated session.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Agenda :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      1 ) going to PR for ObsCore extension. There are prototypes 
>>>>>> of implementation. An effort is going on about science cases 
>>>>>> (issue 
>>>>>> https://github.com/ivoa-std/ObsCoreExtensionForRadioData/issues/47) . Discussion raised by the 2023 november release of the working draft took place on the mailing list. But the content have been copied on the ivoa wiki dedicated page : https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/ObsCoreExtensionForRadioData
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and also on github as issues #48,#49,#50,#51,#52
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We also have a PR by Markus to discuss 
>>>>>> (https://github.com/ivoa-std/ObsCoreExtensionForRadioData) and 
>>>>>> probably another one before the runnin meeting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     2 ) upgrade of implementation review note. If you have new 
>>>>>> things which happened in the 2021 note , please send us or 
>>>>>> directly create PRs on https://github.com/ivoa/RadioVOImplementation/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also valid if you didn't appear in the 2021 note and have 
>>>>>> something to say now !
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> François
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>

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